is this right??

Boothill Bob · August 09, 2012, 01:29:36 PM

Howdy..
I found a clip about colt 45 SAA, and the guy say that all the black powder frames had a lock screw to the cylinder pin. But I think he's wrong there.. Take a look and let Me know.

Grapeshot · August 09, 2012, 02:42:17 PM

Not entirely correct. Colt did not warrant their SAA's for smokeless until after 1906. THe "Black Powder Frame" is a misnomer. Colt had installed the cross pin cylinder release in 1898, so you will still have SAA's that aren't safe for smokeless that have the cross pin in them.

Boothill Bob · August 09, 2012, 03:31:29 PM

So the cross pin wassent seen on colts before 1898

Durango Flinthart · August 09, 2012, 04:34:28 PM

The Colt 1878 DA Frontier and the Colt 1877 Lightning/Thunderer had a spring loaded cross pin latch on the cylinder pin, but the SAA did not have one until 1896.

Watch your topknot

Abilene · August 09, 2012, 04:48:59 PM

Quote from: Grapeshot on August 09, 2012, 02:42:17 PM
Not entirely correct. Colt did not warrant their SAA's for smokeless until after 1906. THe "Black Powder Frame" is a misnomer. Colt had installed the cross pin cylinder release in 1898, so you will still have SAA's that aren't safe for smokeless that have the cross pin in them.

I believe Colt warranted the SAA for smokeless starting with serial number 192000 in 1900. See this discussion for references:
http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?topic=36204.0

Boothill Bob · August 09, 2012, 05:05:43 PM

Thanx for the info pards, you have just got me to look after more misses on western movies

Cliff Fendley · August 09, 2012, 05:47:40 PM

I've started shooting old model frame Uberti SAA in NCOWS shoots because it looks more correct.

Sir Charles deMouton-Black · August 09, 2012, 11:25:44 PM

My short barreled Colt Frontier in .38-40 was made in 1897 and has a cross-pin latch?

P.S; Serial # 169xxx, made in 1897 has a cross-pin latch.

Slowhand Bob · August 12, 2012, 10:58:03 AM

It is basically a pretty good video but no, he does not try to go beyond the basics. As he states, it is a basic primer on understanding the difference between the two frame styles. The average Joe watching this was not looking for a masters in weapons history! I am no longer able to retain the good, more advanced, facts, so do enjoy reading them over and over again as if for the first time!