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Started by Qball, June 30, 2012, 09:58:00 AM

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Qball

Does any one have this mould?
http://www.buffaloarms.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=160683&CAT=4120
I would like one or two bullets to test in my Winchester 1910 before i buy this mould.
$65 + shipping to Sweden is a we bit much if it doesn't work   

Yea i know, I'm cheap    ;D

If it does work, i would settle for a used one to.

Not a bullet that is, i was referring to a used mould     ;)
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Qball

Quote from: cat1870 on June 30, 2012, 10:32:49 AM
Nope.....Not I.


Bummer ;)


The same caliber but other weights would do to, just want's to know it is worth the effort.
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I don't have that bullet mould, either. I do have a similar design mould in .45 cal (Lyman 457193), that shoots well in all three of my 45-70 rifles (2 - SS BPCRs and 1 - lever). I know this doesn't help you, but the design works well. I didn't check for sure, but can't you just order a few from BA to test drive them?
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If you're talking about the M1910 Winchester in .401,that bullet is a good deal undersize.The old Lyman mold number for that rifle is 410426 bullet weight is 240gr.These are a hard to find mold and .41 Magnum shooters snap them up.I've seen 2 on e-bay the last year,they brought over $100 each.There just aren't many .410 molds on the market period and none really suitable for the .401 SLR.Don't waste your money on the mold you linked to,undersized and that flat point will most likely give feeding proplems.

Qball

Quote from: JimBob on June 30, 2012, 01:40:56 PM
If you're talking about the M1910 Winchester in .401,that bullet is a good deal undersize.The old Lyman mold number for that rifle is 410426 bullet weight is 240gr.These are a hard to find mold and .41 Magnum shooters snap them up.I've seen 2 on e-bay the last year,they brought over $100 each.There just aren't many .410 molds on the market period and none really suitable for the .401 SLR.Don't waste your money on the mold you linked to,undersized and that flat point will most likely give feeding proplems.

Wow.. thank you for that informaton.
You just saved me a bundel of $
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Keep in mind as you are in a foreign country nobody here could send you a bullet of any kind without an export license and permit.
It might be well worth the effort to call or email BACO and ask them about which bullet they would recommend for your rifle. Chances are they got something on hand that will work and I'm not sure if Sweden is on the list of places they can export to or not, but they'll let you know.
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Qball

Thank's, i have sent emails to a few companys
I'll just have to wait and se what comes out of this.  :)
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JimBob

Qball,you might check with this mold maker-

http://www.accuratemolds.com/catalog.php?page=all

I've been told they will do custom molds,use the Lyman mold number I posted as a reference to what you are looking for.Their mold #41-240B is very close to the Lyman mold except the bullet is flat on the point instead of rounded.

When looking at a new custom made mould and it's cost,unless you are extremely lucky,you are probably going to pay over $100 for a used mould if you can even find one.

Ranch 13

Accurate does make very good moulds. Would be better if he was able to do full round noses tho.

I looked at information contained in older Ideal handbooks and am pretty convinced Qball could get by with the Lyman 412263 bullet as the recommended diameter for the 401 was .410 when shooting cast.
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JimBob

You would have to seat the bullet pretty deep into the case using that one to maintain OAL to feed which could cause problems as far as case capacity and powder used.Those old self loaders are picky about functioning well unless loaded to very near maximum loads,or at least my M1907 and M1910 are  or were.That might be a mold that could be modified though,wonder what bullet weight it would cast if it was milled off at the top of the bottom grease groove and bullet OAL compared to the .410426?

Ranch 13

There's not much difference between those bullets, worst case he might have to seat the bullet past the driving band. The 263 bullet drops from my mould at 289 grs and .412 diameter.
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JimBob

He'll run into that worst case real quick,OAL of cartridge is 2.005 or they jam up.Not to mention that's a blowback operated rifle designed to operate within certain limits as far as cartridge and bullet weight are concerned.That bullet is 49 grains heavier than the heaviest factory loading that was offered.What happens when that 5 or 6 pound operating slide slams back into the receiver when you use a bullet that much heavier than the rifle was designed for.He can do as he likes,I'll stay within factory specifications on mine.Parts are unobtanium and a blow-back operated semi-automatic rifle isn't quite in the same ball park loading for as lever action rifles or single shots.

Ranch 13

Well the good thing is on another forum where he asked the question someone contacted Old West moulds, and Bernie happens to have a cherry to cut the original Ideal bullet.... So anything further is just adding to the post count. ;)
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JimBob

I've got to put that place in my favorites,I never think about Old West Moulds. ::)

Ranch 13

Yup, ol Bernie makes a dang good mould, and just about everybody that gets one from him is tickled to death, yet for some reason or another there's seldom if any mention of him. I've got two sets of paper patch blocks from him and both cast good bullets.
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Quote from: Ranch 13 on July 03, 2012, 06:23:22 PM
Well the good thing is on another forum where he asked the question someone contacted Old West moulds, and Bernie happens to have a cherry to cut the original Ideal bullet.... So anything further is just adding to the post count. ;)

That was me.  Bernie came through as it seems that .401 owners have used his services before, and NEI can also make a mould by altering the depth of the cherry in a .405 diameter design, and their moulds usually drop large by about .003.
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 ;D Yeh I know, but I'm to dang lazy to type your name out and haven't found an abbreviation that looks right.... :D
Ya did  Good work tho.
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Ranch 13

When I first got my 405 and before Lyman brought the 263 mould back I bought some of those bullets from them, but that's been a dozen years ago..
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