Neiderlander has a protogege!

[Drydock]

Today my son broke both a trapdoor Springfield, and my Cimmeron 7th Cav.  On the same stage!  Autopsy to be preformed this evening.  No wonder he likes Russian guns.

[Charles Isaac]

He broke a Trapdoor-that takes some doing!

Has Col. Neiderlander had any guns fail lately? How is the old Springfield 50/70 he uses holding up?

[Drydock]

Lessee, Bolt spring on the Cimerron, Firing pin on the Trapdoor.  Had a spare spring for the revolver, but the Trapdoor is a Pedersoli, got a new pin on order with VTI, but seems evertime I need something from Italy, its on backorder!

[Delmonico]

Well that don't sound real serious, my nephew broke our M-F 65 about a month ago:

[pony express]

Well that don't sound real serious, my nephew broke our M-F 65 about a month ago:

JB Weld? About 10-15 tubes of it?

[Pitspitr]

Lessee, Bolt spring on the Cimerron, Firing pin on the Trapdoor.  Had a spare spring for the revolver, but the Trapdoor is a Pedersoli, got a new pin on order with VTI, but seems evertime I need something from Italy, its on backorder!

That's rather impressive! How do you break a firing pin on a 45/70 trapdoor? That's like how do you break an M-1!

[Niederlander]

Not that difficult, actually.........!

[Niederlander]

By the way Del, that's quite an impressive inspection port you've installed in your Massey-Ferguson!

[Delmonico]

By the way Del, that's quite an impressive inspection port you've installed in your Massey-Ferguson!

Not me, my nephew.   Very weird what happened, we have a theroy what happened, but way to long for here, better for a night around a campfire.  BTW anyone know of a M-F collectory who needs some decent sheet metal for a 65?  Other parts also, including an un-connected connecting rod with the bolts streched like silly putty.   Ponder on that one till July.

BTW there was flaming stuff came out the hole.

[cpt dan blodgett]

Kinda begs the question, how does one hear a rod knock on an engine that normally sounds like the rods are knocking

[Delmonico]

Kinda begs the question, how does one hear a rod knock on an engine that normally sounds like the rods are knocking

Not a problem on this one, it was a gas burner, but it only took a few seconds from first knock to disaster.

[cpt dan blodgett]

Back it the day I recall plates brazed onto engine blocks.  Yours looks aluminum so bust out the Tig Welder

[Delmonico]

Back it the day I recall plates brazed onto engine blocks.  Yours looks aluminum so bust out the Tig Welder

It's iron, it's been replaced with a newwer more powerfull oil burner.  First year of Massey-Ferguson, engine must have been a leftover that got a couple coats of red paint over the light gey Ferguson color.  Note the rocker cover on the 1948 Ferguson TE-20.



Now if you are an old tractor lover, that name and picture ought to get you drooling, and no it's not for sale.

[Drydock]

I am, it does, too bad!

[Delmonico]

I am, it does, too bad!

Grandpa bought it in 1960, Dad overhauled it when he retired, both gone now but I think of them both when I'm up in the seat.

BTW you should have heard the swearing right after that picture was taken, litl brother had his fancy plastic boxes of  metric and SAEE nuts out trying to put a wire back in the ignition switch. 

"What kind of $#$%^^$$## threads are those, it ain't metric or American?"

I answered with one word and then, "what the *^#$%^$#$# is a Whitworth?"    BTW we have all the old parts, but it has been converted to Delco-Remy, it has the Continental US made engine, not the Brit engine of the later ones so it don't have the Lucifer distributer.

[pony express]

My grandpa had one of those ferguson 20 tractors, he was "kind of" accident prone, had many mis-adventures with it, including running himself over with it, and a flash fire once when refueling it. Unfortunately, an uncle snagged it, as well as the Allis-Chalmers G when Grandpa died, don't know if he's ever done anything with either, but I think the Ferguson was still running when he got it. I drove the Allis more, had my own share of misadventures with it.

[cpt dan blodgett]

When I was a kid up in the Bitterroot my dad did custom farming.
Summers he cut and stacked loose hay, fall he combined grain, springtime he sprayed weeds in the eastern Montana Wheat fields.
Initially he used his F30 with a farmhand to stack the hay, and mowed and raked with his F12.
Last few years he picked up a pair of mineapolis moline used one with the mower and one with the dump rake.
He pulled a Case combine with the F12.

Think it was 59 or 60 he bought a 15 foot selfpropelled Case Combine.  It was too big to get thru the gates in the bitterroot.  The time he saved with 15 ft swath vs 12 was eaten up pulling and setting gate posts.  He and my cousins husband cut it down to a 12 footer that would get thru gates. 

[Delmonico]

The TE-20 (the E stands for English built, most Ferguson 20's are a couple years newer and are US made.) replaced an F-20, Grandpa retired and decided he needed a smaller tractor and this one had one of them new fangled 'lectric starters. 

Got a BIL that still mows and racks with an F-12.

Also where in the Bitterroots was that, my one set of Great Grandparents moved to and farmed west of Hamilton after WWII.  Henry Kaiser paid well during the war and they sold their eastern Iowa farm in 41 to work for him.

[cpt dan blodgett]

We lived on the west side on what is now Orelie lane on the north south section or the road just before it turns west to the old ortlie farm.fred ortlie farm gave dad the 94old win 32specsped that lives in my safe.  Who were the grand parents?

[Drydock]

Well, Donnie now has a Hex Reciever Mosin-Nagant, and an 1895 Nagant revolver.  I'm pretty sure he won't be able to break these.  I'm not sure about Ned though . . .