Fast draw stuff

[Red Cent]

What is the most popular sixgun? Can you take a Ruger Blackhawk and make a Cuger?

What, if any, cant degree is popular?

Since you may start with the hand on the gun, I would say from observation thumb cocking is prevalent. Does anyone use the web of the hand for cocking?

Does anyone use the sling forward method for firing or does every one pull the trigger?

[Jefro]

Howdy Red Cent, the most popular guns are the Ruger Vaquro and the Colt - Colt style replicas. A Cuger would not fly.
GUNS
Single-action revolvers, factory chambered for .45 Colt caliber, with non-adjustable rear sights, such as: S.A.A. Colt, Colt Bisley, 1858 Remington Conversion, 1875 Remington, S&W Schofield, and "faithful reproductions" thereof. Plus, the following Ruger models; Vaquero, New Vaquero, Bisley Vaquero and CFDA Vaquero. The exterior parts of the revolver must match factory stock contours and made of original type material: i.e. hammers must not be bent in anyway, no trigger shoes, no aluminum/titanium barrels or cylinders, no skeletonizing, no modifications to the trigger guard, or grip frame, etc. All external parts must match the manufacturer's stock product, i.e. a Bisley revolver must have a matching Bisley hammer, a SAA must have a stock SAA hammer. Front sights are optional. Minimum barrel length is 4-1/2", except in the Shootist category (see Page 6), when measured from the cylinder to the front of the barrel. Hammer knurling may be smoothed.
Tuning Actions
Tuning stock actions or action jobs are allowed. No factory installed safeties may be removed. No action job may affect the factory designed external operation of the revolver: i.e. no short stroking actions, slip-cocking actions, or adding half-cocks or free-spin pawls in Ruger Vaquero models. Half-cocks and full-cocks must be able to withstand a reasonable jar. Cylinder notches may be deepened and cleaned to fit the bolt, lead-in grooves may be modified as needed to improve reliability.

The degree of cant is not more than 20 degrees
There will be no more than a 20-degree (front or back) holster cant while the shooter is in a normal standing 2. position.

Thumb cocking is all I've ever seen, you want the hand tilted away from the gun (thumb on hammer, finger resting on outside of trigger gaurd, two fingers under grip) so when you draw you are sorta snatching the grip and pulling the trigger at the same time. Quck Cal's "Hit Em' Fast" cd goes into better detail. Come on down and shoot with us, I'll be glad to loan you the cd, and I usually have an extra pistol, just bring a holster. Good Luck


Jefro Relax-Enjoy

[Red Cent]

Back in the day we did a draw similar to guy on Silverado. The one practicing in the desert. Can't remember his nme. We started hands by the sides. I would come across the top taking the hammer back with the web/palm, acquiring the grip and drawing. I suppose if you are allowed to touch the revolver, it would be faster with thumb on hammer and the grip.
Some would draw and thrust the revolver forward letting the momentum of the revolver pull the trigger when the hnd stopped. A few years back, the fellow at the fast draw berm did that pretty good.
Aware of the cant rule. Curious if everyone used all the cant.

Used to do a lot of informal fast draw. The new CFDA interests me. Hey Jefro, you're a fur piece. Might just do it though.
Tell me bout your CFDA match gun. Anything special?

I would appreciate any comments about the revolvers. I'm a little nutty about ergonomics. I would have Mernickle build me a rig if I take the step. He built my first SASS rig.

[TwoWalks Baldridge]

Red Cent, Please use caution ... CFDA has a tendency to be addictive.  I went to one of their monthly matches a few months back and have living and breathing fast draw every since. 

I shoot with a group of about 30 and there is a real assortment of guns used.  Cost being a huge factor for me, I bought an Uberti Cattleman and have since realized there are 8 of them being used by this group.  Rugers are probably the majority as well as Mernickle leather.  Most of the old guys in the group began in the 60's with World Fast draw and as a result, they do not like the Ruger because it weighs more than most Colt styles and the extra weight in in the barrel.

Now having expounded my limited experience I will conclude with the following:

Make it to a gathering of CFDA types and they will have you try out all sorts of gear from holsters to guns.  There will be no shortage of friendliness, help and advice.

[Red Cent]

My addiction is having to research everything that interests me. I never used an Uberti, or a 92 or 94, never used buscaderos. I don't like the mexican two loop. I love modern leather. The Virginian, Peter Brown on Lawman, and Steve McQueen.

Do you lighten the hammer spring? What pound trigger pull does the good ones (shooters) like? Do you dig out the funnel in to the cyclinder notch? Do you cut the notch deeper and a touch wider?

[TwoWalks Baldridge]

My addiction is having to research everything that interests me. I never used an Uberti, or a 92 or 94, never used buscaderos. I don't like the mexican two loop. I love modern leather. The Virginian, Peter Brown on Lawman, and Steve McQueen.

Do you lighten the hammer spring? What pound trigger pull does the good ones (shooters) like? Do you dig out the funnel in to the cyclinder notch? Do you cut the notch deeper and a touch wider?

The CFDA information covering the holsters was confusing for me in the beginning.  They use the term "Mexican Loop" but what they are describing in not a Mexican loop just that the loop and bucket are one piece.  The exception to that rule is stated in the use of a slim Jim holster.   So the style worn by The Virginian, Peter Brown on Lawman, and Vin worn by Steve McQueen in the Magnificent seven are legal.

I believe the majority of the shooters do reduce the hammer spring usually with the addition of a competition spring kit.  As far as the trigger pull, I am not sure.  It was recommended to me not to reduce the trigger pull below 3 pounds.

[Jefro]

Curious if everyone used all the cant.

Used to do a lot of informal fast draw. The new CFDA interests me. Hey Jefro, you're a fur piece. Might just do it though.
Tell me bout your CFDA match gun. Anything special?

I would appreciate any comments about the revolvers. I'm a little nutty about ergonomics. I would have Mernickle build me a rig if I take the step. He built my first SASS rig.

Howdy Red Cent, I think the cant depends on the shooter, mine are a 10 & 15 degree cant. Check Merinckle web site, they have several different models, buscaderos are not legal.

I ain't that far away, bring the little lady and make it a weekend at the beach

Both of my revolvers are GW II from EMF, the only thing I did was add a Lee Gunslinger spring kit, trigger pull about 3lbs. Longhunter is now selling the Cimarron Frontier with action job for CFDA or SASS, I have a pair of these in .357 for SASS, really nice pistols.  Same basic gun as the GW II but with real CCH, both made by Pietta. Modifications to cylinder notch would just depend each pistol, some may need it. Come see us

Jefro Relax-Enjoy