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[FTrooper]

OK, F Troop Company is working with a new guy to produce historic pasteboard cartridge boxes for your ammo.  I hope to have samples when (if) I make the Dept. Missouri muster and Grand Muster.

There will be two versions.  One type with a sliding open bottom for reuse, and a display type that is sealed.  Prices LOOK like $17 and $15 respectfully in most cases and they are worth it (this guy has supplied to many museum exhibits since the 1980's).  Below is a list of currently available and some possible future developments.

Two things we are still working on.  1).  The civilian boxes may be a sticky issues since many of those companies still exist and are not afraid to use their power of copyright and trademark.  Also I will need to confer with SGT John Chapman on his offerings.   I have a weird integrity things.  I greatly respect his work and as such I do not wish to infringe on him, so my big plan is to NOT offer things he offers (basically no overlap)...of course he may also decide having someone else to take the load off his shoulders a bit would be a good thing.  It will be his call.

Available:

"Sharps 10 round Civil War era .54 linen cartridge

Sage Ammunition Works, 42 round Civil War era no. 56 for Spencer & Joslyn, and post war .50 (56-50).  The outer boxes I have made spot-on whereas the inner 7 round packets I intended for reuse, so they are constructed with a tuck-in flap instead of the tear-open.

The following are all Frankford Arsenal Boxes intended for reuse, so the outer shell with the wrapping and pull string remove from the inner box that holds the cartridges.  I have made and can make up completely sealed versions that would act as the original for display. 

20 round, Rifle,    .50 (.50-70), 1866
5     "        "          "        "     , 1867
20    "        "          "        "     , 1867
"     "     , Carbine, "  (.50-55), 1870
"     "     , Rifle       "  (.50-70), 1871
"     "     , Rifle,    .45 (.45-70), 1874
"     "     ,Carbine,  "   (.45-55),   "       
"     "     ,Rifle, Reloading,        1877
"     "     , Carbine,   "                "
"     "     , Rifle,                        1878
"     "     , Carbine                        "
"     "      Multiball, for Rifle And Carbine, 1878
"     "      , Rifle,                       1881
"     "      , Carbine,                     "
12    "      , Revolver, .45, 1875

For Civilian, I have the following:

50 round, Henry,      .44, New Haven Arms ca 1863 , line border, green label
"     "          "            "       "        "      "      "  1865  , fancy border,  "      "
"     "     , Winchester "  , Winchester Repeating Arms, ca 1866, fancy border, green label
"     "            "          .44-40    "              "           "        "  1873, w/ seal band   "        "
"     "      , Colt Revolver .45, U.S. Cartridge Co, ca 1875, w/ seal band, green label
"     "      , Smith & Wesson .44 Russian, ca. 1873,           "      "     "         "      "
"     "       ,   "            "       .45 Schofield, "   1875,          "       "    "          "     "
10    "      , Sharps, .50-70, .50-90 (and .50-140 if desired), ca 1870, white label
"     "            "       .45-70, .45-90, .45-120, ca 1875 green label

At the moment, this is what I have with label artwork that I can produce.  I'm thinking of adding a Winchester '76 in .45-60 and .45-75, but I need to install the program and learn the process.  I may have mentioned my original graphics person is no longer available for the work.  I'm also going to work up some English Eley labels for the .45 revolver variants from the late 1860s -80s as well as the Military wrappers for the .577 Snider and .577/450 Martini Henry."

I am considering pre-orders on the available ones to be delivered to the Dept. Missouri Muster.  They will be $13 and $11 as an introductory offer.  I need to place the order soon to guarantee their completion in time, so please let me know at FTroopCompany@yahoo.com before May 12.  If for any reason I can not make the muster (my life is rather fluid right now), I will ship them at my expense other direct to your at my expense or to Jerry Davenport to pass out at the muster (they will be bundled and labeled).

Chris Fischer
F-Troop Company

[SGT John Chapman]

Problem is FTrooper no one wants to pay that much for boxes,..... most want to pay about $5 each for a ready to load box,.....

AS For treading on my toes I have no business what I have done was for me,....I occasionally sell or give some of my work to friends new and old,....

And as for others buying your "productions" Not many will buy them without seeing photos of the samples,...I can promise some crazy stuff,.....but no one will bite without proof of quality and deliver-ability,..

[kurt250]

yes, i'm very interested but need to see a picture before i make a order for the henry ammo boxes. kurt250

[FTrooper]

Fully understandable on all accounts.  I am buying some samples this weekend mostly for myself (and thus the pre-order deal, it was going to save on shipping)...I will also see if I can find one of the boxes I bought from this man several years ago when he first started.  I am not 100% sure how long he will take on my order, but will post images just as soon as I have them and will have them with me at the Dept. Mo Muster.  Once I am 100% satisfied with everything, they are something we are going to try to keep in stock (I and most people hate ordering custom items, F Troop Company is trying to make sure we have a VERY modest quantity of most requested and popular items in stock, we want to be able to ship an order within 48 hours of payment).  Once my business partner gets settled after his latest move, we are going to get our other supplies working on other things as well.  So all in all I do agree that deliverability is a HUGE issue and we want to take care of that).

Sgt John, thanks, I know few people who want to pay that much for a cardboard box, very few...but I do want to make them available to those few who do (like me)...eventually I may try and be really friendly with you as you have quite a few things you have done that I'd like, and my guy doesn't have the artwork, for my personal displays (really liking the M1911 stuff and a few other items you do).

Again, will post images of the old boxes I have or the new ones when they arrive.  Also I want to keep pointing out, the main focus will be the military boxes ala Frankford Arsenal.  We are looking into the civilian stuff...but legal council is telling us that "Winchester" etc. is most likely not doable for resale.


Chris Fischer
F Troop Company

[kurt250]

good news, i interested and will look forward to the photo's. i know winchester can be a real pain in the backside. thats why there a just a after thought of what they used to be. why can't reproduce the old labels and sell them to people who like to reproduce the old ammo boxes. how much would that cost? they could charge people for them if they were of high quality. kurt250

[FTrooper]

Kurt, that was a point a buddy and I made awhile back. Cowboy Action Shooting is one of the fastest growing sports out there (and not just in the firearms related circuit).  Companies that specialize in CAS ammunition and loads are few and far between (and thus are pricey).  It is amazing to me that someone at the big W (whose regular ammo is very highly thought of for over the counter goods) hasn't done a line of CAS loads in reproduction boxes with their 19th century labels and all the "modern" information printed on the back or bottom!  I mean for Pete's Sake, companies are selling special "Zombie Ammo" in Special Boxes!  I think they are only hurting themselves.

Chris Fischer
F Troop Company