pattern

[Boothill Bob]

Howdy pards.
I wonder if someone have an autentic US/CS fullflap holster? Got a customer that want to buy a CS holster from me.
//BhB

[WaddWatsonEllis]

The CS holster that I really like is the one that is from David Carrico ... the method of closure of the strap makes a lot more sense than any other I have ever seen ... and then there is that stamp of "CS Arsenal Baton Rouge, LA." ..... a nice touch ...


http://www.carricoleather.com/militarybeltsholsters.html

I don't know if he might give out the pattern ... possibly to his inability (at the moment), he might sell the pattern as a 'professional courtesy' to a well respected leatherworker like yourself ....

TTFN,

[Slye]

What pattern and for what gun?
The more historical holsters don't have "CS" logo

[Boothill Bob]

Slye. Its for Army 60 and Navy 51.. He wanted the CS stamp on it.. I belive it was more comon with the CS stamp
then the US, but I can have wrong. Maby our American friends knows..

[WaddWatsonEllis]

BB,

From about 1862 on, the South was broke or extremely limited in the issue of supples, including guns ... in fact, it is said that
'battlefiled donations' would often be a source of weapons and leather ... and as such, having a US belt buckle and US holster is not totally out of the realm of possibiliies ... although they would want to over-emboss a CS on it as soon as they could ... and scrounge a CS belt buckle ...


Another thought is that they were eating/sleeping/libing in the rain with their leather ... so it would not look all pretty and just issued ...

I don't know where you would find a 'proper' CS embossing tool ... I was going to add this but it seems you have already been there ... *S*

http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=22295

[Boothill Bob]

Thanx for the info Wadd I got the stamps, just need the right autentic pattern.

[outrider]

BB,

Jim Simmons (Etowah Leather) has a very well done military flap holster.  Try to get a look at the pattern.  I may have a copy of the Ordnance Memoranda manual for that time period...

[Boothill Bob]

Will see if I find that Outrider.

[Slye]

we have some differents  patterns, which can interesting to you
but how is the style you want?

[Boothill Bob]

Sly, I'm looking for this model.

[outrider]

Looks like the Jim Simmons pattern

[outrider]

Bob, that Simmons pattern is called the 1863 Cavalry holster pattern   #6000-62.  It covers the 1851 and the 1860

[Capt.Virgil Russo]

Bob, I've worked with and for Swedes for 25 years and you're the only Swedish Cowboy I've had the pleasure of meeting, cyber or otherwise! 

[Boothill Bob]

Outrider, is there a website for the pattern?

Capt.Virgil Russo, some will be the first We have a bunch of CAS shooters over here, allmost as many as on you club matches 

[outrider]

It used to be listed on the Hide Crafter website...but I don't see it in their catalog...they may have dropped it.

[Arizona Cattleman]

Bob, just saw this on Tandy's download site, could be what your liiking for.

https://www.leathercraftlibrary.com/p-1235-2691-percussion-pistol-pattern-pak.aspx

AC

[Doc Hawkins]

It's not too hard to make the pattern yourself.
I made a holster like that several years ago, but sadly it left me when I sold my 1860.
I'll see if I still have the pattern I made somewhere.

[davemyrick]

Point of fact gents, there was no official CS revolver holster pattern that was produced in any significant numbers anywhere except at the Richmond Depot. Very few known examples of it survive to date. They are simply put copies of the holsters in use by the Federals for the `51 Navy revolvers. The vast majority of exisiting documented CS holsters are of a civilian design and vary greatly. None would have had an embossed CS on the flap.

If anyone would desire an accurate pattern for either a Navy or Army holster, from the civil war, let me know and I will send one along. Both are drafted from original holsters in my private collection.

Dave

[Marshal Will Wingam]

Welcome to the forum, Davemyrick. It's nice of you to offer a pattern to the pards here. Looking forward to more of your posts.

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Davemyrick,

Point of fact (or at least strong congesture) was that the South was pretty broke by 1862 ... and the on of the best suppliere of weapons was the Notrh through 'battlefield donations'. So it would not be out of the ordinary for a confederate cavalryman to ride by with a totally northenn (i.e. black) leather rig with a 'donated' Nothern Collt or Remington in the holster and a muzzleloading shotgun or rifle as it's partner ....