Wondering about noise or sounds

[GunClick Rick]

I live in a subdivision on a caldesac street and man it gets noisy as heck at times,everybody on the street younger than i has a rumble truck,wakes me up everyday as i sleep closer to the street.I collect native american stuff and was thinking how much more quite an indian camp would be. How would they be structured as to how close each lodge would be and what would be some of the noises or sounds you would here during a normal day.Was one neighbor far away from the other or more of a subdivison scenerio?? In search of peace and quite~~

[ChuckBurrows]

The lodges were quite close together in fact and no Indian camps were seldom silent based on period accounts. Dogs barking constantly was one of the big noises.

scroll thorugh some of the actual period photos here and you can see several camps and how close things were together:
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1T4GGNI_enUS455US456&q=plains+indian+camps&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=-Ps7T6j-BKWOiALej8WSDA&biw=1280&bih=567&sei=_vs7T9DLMIzKiQLd9OySDA

[TwoWalks Baldridge]

Also in a lodge often was the extended family, Picture living in a small, very small room with your wife, her sisters, your mother and a couple young ones.  Now picture those, well lets just say, night time noises. Couple that with the snoring and well, it probably was not quiet.

[GunClick Rick]

Wish i could find a tipi for a decent price.

[Professor Marvel]

Greetings -

until the availability of the Canvas tent fabric, Lodges  were constructed of much heavier hides. Before horses,  A typical Hide lodge might be a ten-foot lodge having a base of about 10 ft in diameter, and using ~ 15-16 foot poles. These were hauled on travois by dogs. After Horses became available the hide lodges grew to 12-15 feet (heght & diameter) and used poles ~ 6 feet longer.

here's an older photo, looks like perhaps 8-10 foot ?
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1Ocbv5cmN0G3M_zP80oDSCmpxXY2VqjBfyMXuZDDzOrjBJM0a

When Canvas became available, lodges as tall and wide as 18 feet could readily be hauled, the top limit now became the length of pole. In the winter or on extended camp, one would string an Ozan , or liner, which made the inside even smaller.

If you were lucky and rich and young you might have 3 beds in a lodge. here a modern rich man's lodge
http://www.tipi.com/homepage/homephotosig.jpg

here's a traditional lodge - not a lot of room:
http://sunnysidestories.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/tipisetup.jpg

If not think more.
So think of 6-8 folks in a 10-12 foot diameter tent with a fire almost in the middle (toward the back).

and I am here to tell ya, just head down to Rondy and that's about as quiet as a village would get. Canvas doesn't stop any sound, and only persuades heavy rain....
I never got any sleep without foam earplugs .

Lodges were pretty close to each other (remember we are talking "back in the day" when raids and such were common)
often in a ring with an opening to the east . Traditionally Lakota and Crow lodges faced east as well.


Gotta tell ya I really love 6 inch insulated walls with stucco & stone for warmth and quiet.

yhs
prof marvel

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Rick,

I live right across the street from the exit to one of the major hospitals in town ... so in addition to three shifts of rumble trucks and base levels that sometimes shake the house, I get ambulances going Code 3 all night and day ... both to the hospital accross the street and to the hospital just down the street ... I can understand loosing sleep to road noise!

TTFN,

[GunClick Rick]

Wad you a better man than i,no way could i do that..My mountain man buddy has a big tipi he made,i would love to have one in my back yard just for now and then.My friend wife fell asleep in the tipi a few months ago and the lining wall cuaght fire,she got it out though and my buddy had to make another one.

scroll down to see Chuck,he live about two miles west of me.

http://lasersol.com/history/Green_River/grr_pageant.html

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Rick,

I am not so special; in fact, I have been know to sleep with foam earplugs in my ears ... but it is where I could afford to buy a nice house and will probably be carried out of it when I die .... *S*

[Drayton Calhoun]

I used to sleep about 8 feet below #4 arresting gear wire on the USS Forrestal, funny how you can get used to unbelieveable noise, now I can't sleep if it's too quiet! LOL