American Pioneer Powder allowed in BP class?????

[rbertalotto]

Is American Pioneer Powder allowed to be used in BP classes even though it clearly states it contains "no black powder" in the formulation?

"ABSOLUTELY NO BLACK POWDER is added to our American Pioneer® Powder and Jim Shockey's™ GOLD™ SUPER STICKS™ and STICKS® Compressed Charges.  The addition of black powder would defeat the purpose of using a sulfurless black powder replacement in a muzzleloader or other black powder firearm to eliminate sulfur corrosion, fouling, and the horrible "rotten egg" smell."

Therefore it must be Nitro based? 

[Mason Stillwell]

App is allowed and so is Pyrodex  I shoot lots of both however prefer Holy Black . It is a smoke thing make enough smoke and you are Okie Dokie  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dick Dastardly]

That rotten egg smell is pure ambrosia.  It's one of the things that keep me coming back to the Holy Black.

"The addition of black powder would defeat the purpose of using a sulfurless black powder replacement in a muzzleloader or other black powder firearm to eliminate sulfur corrosion, fouling, and the horrible "rotten egg" smell."


DD-MDA

[Dick Dastardly]

Annnnnd, black powder is actually less corrosive than APP.

DD-MDA

[Roosterman]

Annnnnd, black powder is actually less corrosive than APP.

DD-MDA

That's a fact! That stuff will eat your guns alive.

[hellgate]

APP is even more corrosive to brass. If you don't wash out your brass in a timely manner it will become eccrusted in blue green verdigris.

[Dick Dastardly]

Annnnd, with Big Lube bullets, fouling is no longer an issue.

DD-MDA

[Mason Stillwell]

I love BP and shoot it as much as I can.

However APP is legal in BP  class.

And It works in Shotgun at a little less $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[rbertalotto]

APP is legal, but Blackhorn isn't.........interesting.....

[August]

APP is a vexation to the Spirit.

It is corrosive.  It damages brass quickly and will attack guns if not rigorously cleaned.  I has a dry smoke that is very acrid and hurts to breath.  It looks silly when it comes out in strings from the gun.

Black powder, real black powder, and only black powder is the best solution for shooting in black powder events.  Duh.

[john boy]

APP is nothing more than the old Clean Shot ascorbic acid powder that ceased operation when Hodgdon sued them for patent infringement and won - $1,014,660 back in 2001.  All ascorbic acid and Sodium benzoate/Potassium perchlorate substitute powders (Pyrodex & Triple Seven) are SASS legal also

Blackhorn 209 is not SASS legal because it contains nitro cellulose gun powder- the smokeless stuff!

[Cuts Crooked]

APP is legal, but Blackhorn isn't.........interesting.....

APP is nothing more than the old Clean Shot ascorbic acid powder that ceased operation when Hodgdon sued them for patent infringement and won - $1,014,660 back in 2001.  All ascorbic acid and Sodium benzoate/Potassium perchlorate substitute powders (Pyrodex & Triple Seven) are SASS legal also

Blackhorn 209 is not SASS legal because it contains nitro cellulose gun powder- the smokeless stuff!

It also smokes LESS than real BP, along with there not being any published data in cartridges available.

[Steel Horse Bailey]

REAL  Gunpowder is the way to go!


(Of course, some politicians who think they know EVERYTHING including how we live and what consumables we should use, have made real BP hard to use [restrictions] and very hard to obtain locally, without the help of computers & mail-order.)

[HAGEN]

Started  using it for Turkey & Deer BP Hunting few years back.
Now I use it to  make White Smoke in SASS Frontier Cartridge.

Hagen