Confederate powder flasks?

Started by Dakota Widowmaker, January 01, 2012, 01:40:23 PM

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Dakota Widowmaker

I have seen only one CS flask where it was obviously grousomely soldered together.

Nothing at all like the Cold or Remington flasks we see today.

Is there a specific type or model that the south carried that I could reference?

Or did they just rely on more traditional "horns"?

River City John

They relied on pre-formed paper cartridges, like their Northern counterparts.


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Dakota Widowmaker

Even for pistols?

I'll have to dig out my paper cartridge book and have another look.

Here is a pic of the flask I was referring to earlier.


River City John

It looks like a middle eastern or european-made with a CS worked into it before soldering together. Probably aimed at an American market would be my guess.

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St. George

RCJ's on the money - the bulk of these were of Indian construction, sold through English suppliers, and first showed up on our shores in the late 1960's - early 1970's, in an appeal to the uninformed.

By the time of the Civil War, paper-wrapped cartridges were in wide distribution throughout - and both sides issued them.

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landrm1

This is my first time on this site so pardon if my formatting is not correct.  I am playing on this particular subject because my question is in regards to pistols.  I understand about rifles with the paper cartridges but in regards to pistols wouldn't there have been some sort of powder "holder" available to the soldier whether infantry or calvary?

St. George

Both sides were issued combustible cartridges for the arms issued - not loose powder and ball.

Rifle and Carbine rounds were carried in over-the-shoulder cartridge boxes.

Revolver rounds were issued in small wooden carriers that could fit into a cap pouch.

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Tsalagidave

The boys here are right. I have never seen powder flasks on CS ordinance returns but plenty of either skin or combustible envelope ammunition issued.  All the common CW era flasks I've ever encountered were private  manufacture and the "issue" flasks from the expansionist era were so rare at that point, I wouldn't carry one unless it was for a specific impression that had it specifically documented as part of the issued gear. (It would be kind of like a modern soldier adding Vietnam era equipment to his MOLLE gear.) Maybe it happened, but it would be too rare to represent as "typical".

As a side note, so many of us here have experimented with making combustible envelope cartridges, we'd be glad to give some pointers.

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Shawnee McGrutt

A dumb question, how were powder flasks used?  I know they measured and dispensed gunpowder  Did paper cartridges find widespread use in the west and make powder flasks obsolete?  If not, up to how late in history would they have been used?  I see from this post that the use of flasks during the Civil War, was not prevalent .   I guess what I am asking did this carry over into the west after the war? ???
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St. George

Powder flasks were quickly overtaken by the time of the Civil War by combustible paper cartridges.

After that - those made obsolete by self-contained copper and brass cartridges - first rim fire, then center fire - but they (combustible cartridges) had a long life, and were available for quite some time.

Of course it carried over - by war's end there were combustible cartridge manufacturing companies in full swing, and there were available surplus rounds being sold to large buyers - to be sold on to suppliers, until the buying public saw the advantages of the self-contained round.

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