Mexican Dress?

[Luis Chama]

Any of you WB shooters dress as Mexicans?

[Reverend P. Babcock Chase]

Howdy Luis,

At one local club we show up with all manner of costume, Mexican civilian or military, U.S. military, cowboy even an American spy posing as a German advisor, with a luger, no less.

I can't speak to the correctness of the uniform in the movie, but that Mexican officer had a very cool pair of nickel plated Colt autos that looked like they were pre-1911 models. Any club that wouldn't let you use those, I wouldn't want to shoot at.

Reverend Chase

[Reverend P. Babcock Chase]

Howdy Luis,

At one local club we show up with all manner of costume, Mexican civilian or military, U.S. military, cowboy even an American spy posing as a German advisor, with a luger, no less.

I can't speak to the correctness of the uniform in the movie, but that Mexican officer had a very cool pair of nickel plated Colt autos that looked like they were pre-1911 models. Any club that wouldn't let you use those, I wouldn't want to shoot at.

Reverend Chase

[Jefro]

Sure it's legal, it's a fantasy sport/game. Anything from the old west, television, movies, the Wild Bunch movie, B-Westerns, military, and Mexican. Good Luck

SASS Wild Bunch Action Shooting is a combination of historical reenactment and Saturday morning at the matinee. Participants may choose the style of costume they wish to wear, but all clothing must be typical of the late 19th century and early 20th century cowboy and military. Emphasis is put on period US military from 1900 to 1916. Period western dress is allowed such as Pike, Dutch, Lyle, or Tector in the closing scene of the Wild Bunch movie (e.g., Western style pants with or without suspenders, and long sleeve western shirt). Vests are optional. Boots must be SASS legal. Legal SASS headgear must be worn. Mexican dress is also appropriate
ALL clothing and equipment MUST be worn appropriately, how it was intended, and how it would have been worn in the OLD WEST or as seen on B-Western movies and television.

Jefro Relax-Enjoy

[Bugscuffle]

Mexican dress?  Naw, all my dresses are American.

[Pancho Peacemaker]

[Slowhand Bob]

Pancho, you be my hero, I really enjoyed the video.   

[The Elderly Kid]

Does anybody know of a supplier who carries the short, Mexican, charro-style jacket such as the Rurales wore as part of their uniform? I see men wearing them in pictures of Mexican festivals, so there must be makers in Mexico, at least. I'm looking for one in brown or gray leather. Any help appreciated.

[Pancho Peacemaker]

Does anybody know of a supplier who carries the short, Mexican, charro-style jacket such as the Rurales wore as part of their uniform? I see men wearing them in pictures of Mexican festivals, so there must be makers in Mexico, at least. I'm looking for one in brown or gray leather. Any help appreciated.

Couple places in the US sell them:

http://www.oldtradingpost.com/old-west-store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_37&products_id=2279

http://www.riverjunction.com

You can also find some genuine Mexican made Charro Jackets on eBay.  I've bought a few cheap (less than $40), but the quality varies from junk to well made. 

[The Elderly Kid]

Thanks, Pancho. I'll try Ebay first. I was hoping for something "distressed" looking.

[Slowhand Bob]

Kid, buy them in an extra large size and send them to me.  I will return them by summers end with a guarantee that they will be fully distressed for you and I'll even do my best to add some pseudo bandito odors also.  HMMM, now that I think about it they might not have any seams left either so lets make that XXL to protect your investment and I will perform the service for free!

[August]

Does anybody know of a supplier who carries the short, Mexican, charro-style jacket such as the Rurales wore as part of their uniform? I see men wearing them in pictures of Mexican festivals, so there must be makers in Mexico, at least. I'm looking for one in brown or gray leather. Any help appreciated.

I was in Wild West Merchantile last week and they had a good selection of charro jackets in a range of colors.  Give 'em a call.

[Slowhand Bob]

What is the difference between Vaquero and Charro, on the web site they looked like the same cut, just different materials and decorative patterns?  Boy did I like the leather Vaquero  jacket on the one site but almost $200 and you still need the pants!  Besides, I am starting my new years diet resolution uhhh the first of February!

[Grizzly Adams]

What is the difference between Vaquero and Charro, on the web site they looked like the same cut, just different materials and decorative patterns? 

The Charro is basically a Mariachi costume item, whereas the true Vaquero was a Spanish Horseman's jacket based heavily, in terms of design details, on traditional Spanish armor.  To most folk's eye, a Vaquero/Charro is pretty much the same.  Most Vaquero jackets offered for sale currently are a bit short of the mark,  and more like the Charro - thus the confusion.  The last great maker of the true Vaquero Jacket was Horsefly, who know the history, and the style, and made them by hand.  Sadly, he is not longer with us.

My wife has an antique pattern that she used to make one for me, but it was so hard to follow that she just glares at me when I suggest she try another one!

[Slowhand Bob]

Grizzly, just tell her that next Saturday is my birthday.      Actually I had one made several years back but was always disappointed in the way it looked on me, took me a long time to accept that it was not the suits fault! 

[The Elderly Kid]

My main reason for acquiring the charro jacket is an 1840s-era scalphunter impression I'm putting together. Samuel Chamberlain's "My Confession" contains what I believe is the only likeness of John Joel Glanton, still in his Texas Ranger days during the Mexican War. Chamberlain depicts Glanton dressed in full vaquero dress, including a serape over his shoulder. The scene is a low dive and Glanton has just killed another Ranger with a Bowie knife. Glanton was rough as a cob. Anyway the jacket strikes me as just the sort of garment a scalphunter might have acquied, probably having taken it off a dead body.

[Story]

Any of you WB shooters dress as Mexicans?

Which *kind* of Mexicans?

Upper echelon leadership? They dress like Texican businessmen
http://www.discoverseaz.com/Graphics/History/VillaSM.gif
General Villa, Mexican bandit. 1. General Fierro. 2. General Villa. 3. General Ortega. 4. Colonel Medina., ca. 1913, NARA #533444

Or just plain rank and file? Rougher work clothes and a bigger sombrero.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_473nrD5vEv8/SgQVT9WQYvI/AAAAAAAABi0/GVrj-2S14p0/s400/Mexican-Bandit.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Kunig8rqaR8/SyIToX0VleI/AAAAAAAAAfY/spR_sD7Kk7o/s400/Mexican+Bandits.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_473nrD5vEv8/TQ9V7r3LQ3I/AAAAAAAADCM/ImiKa0S20Io/s1600/zapata.jpg

Or do you mean the Rurales? You know, the mounted police?
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/b4c86f58e57af577_landing

[Story]

Or how about "Grupo de defensa civil", also during the Revolutionary era.

[Story]

Howdy Luis,

At one local club we show up with all manner of costume, Mexican civilian or military, U.S. military, cowboy even an American spy posing as a German advisor, with a luger, no less.

I can't speak to the correctness of the uniform in the movie, but that Mexican officer had a very cool pair of nickel plated Colt autos that looked like they were pre-1911 models. Any club that wouldn't let you use those, I wouldn't want to shoot at.

Reverend Chase

I'd like to see pics of these guys?

[Grizzly Adams]

There is a video called, "The Last Zapatistas, Forgotten Heros."  Can be streamed on Netflix, or rented I suppose.  While the soundtrack is in Spanish, the photos and film images are great!  Basically interviews with "vets" of the Mexican Revolution, men and women who fought under the leadership of Emilliano Zapata.