New Maker of Cowboy Guns incl. Henries

Started by Long Johns Wolf, September 15, 2011, 08:26:30 AM

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Coffinmaker


Forgot.  That really is not abad price for a custom built rifle :)

Coffinmaker

Long Johns Wolf

I am going to stick to the traditional, not the transitional Henry, ha. It's going the be the early version with the rounded buttplate. Black widow finish, i. e. finish of barrel, receiver & buttplate all black.
Long Johns Wolf
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Mako

Quote from: Coffinmaker on October 24, 2011, 09:02:18 PM
Forgot.  That really is not abad price for a custom built rifle :)

Coffinmaker

Coffinmaker,
I was surprised as well, that really is a righteous price for a custom configuration.  Some people would pay what a Uberti Runs now ($1,100 -1,300) new and then pay a custom gunsmith to make a "conversion" and think they were getting a good deal.  Wolf is getting a purpose built rifle, that's really a cut above.

Congratulations LJW, I'm already anticipating the photos.  I hope you do a full break down with photos like below.

Regards,
Mako

P.S. I haven't forgotten about the illustrations for the book, and w44wcf says he's all on board.  Send me an Email.
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Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on September 16, 2011, 11:22:24 AM

OK, thanks. I found the correct section and they look GREAT!!  :o

http://www.greatgun.eu/index.php?/fotogalerie/vyroba-westernovych-zbrani-great-gun-4

Notice how they are making the '66 receiver with a shorter ejection port like an original!! WOW!!  :o


I have seen it, it is a very nice Henry rifle, but the price is fare beyond Uberti's price, The cost in US dollars is 1835.57$,
it is 33.000 Czech dollars after converting here on the internett  :-\


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Steel Horse Bailey

$1835  is pretty spectacular considering you're getting a full, hand-made custom gun for only $500 more.  And I'll bet it's even better steel than the Italians use (which ISN'T as cheap as we sometimes think of - especially for C&B guns.)

I'd say those Czechs have  darn good thing going!

Of course, the Czechs have been known for MANY decades to be fine gun makers!
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Cal Fornia

Quote from: Steel Horse Bailey on November 03, 2011, 03:21:50 PM
$1835  is pretty spectacular considering you're getting a full, hand-made custom gun for only $500 more.  And I'll bet it's even better steel than the Italians use (which ISN'T as cheap as we sometimes think of - especially for C&B guns.)

I'd say those Czechs have  darn good thing going!

Of course, the Czechs have been known for MANY decades to be fine gun makers!


Indeed... I had a CZ85 that never failed to fire when I pressed the trigger, very sturdy, reliable and decently accurate (I'm not exactly a crack pistol shot).



Steel Horse Bailey

Back during World War Twice, the Nazi engineers were pretty much top of the line at most anything to do with weapons.  They would capture gun factories in countries they conquered, let the engineers improve whatever the factories made for their own use, then manufacture it with the Nazi "seal of approval" on it.  When they went into the Czech weapons factories to see what they could use, the Germans found the Czech weapons (small arms as well as artillery and armor) to already be up to or exceeding their already rigid standards.  There was one anti-tank vehicle, the "Hetzer" or "Jagdpanzer 38(t)" that was put into use by the Germans with only slight modifications.  It was already more modern and advanced than the German designs, so it got a new paint job, a few mods, and into battle it went.   And this example certainly isn't the ONLY one.

Like I said - the Czechs have long been known as quality weapons and weapons-related items manufacturers.

Going in a different direction and perhaps affecting even MORE people of the world than their weapons do or did, here's ANOTHER item that many of us are interested in.  Many folks know how much the Germans like Beer.  They invented it, basically.  Yes, beer has existed LONG before there was a Germany (they have found recipes for beer in Pharaoh's tombs, among other places) but the Germans pretty much perfected it.  BUT ... the favorite beer of most people ISN'T the German product, which tends to be a dark, heavy beer, rather it is a lovely golden color, and very smooth tasting.   It's called the Pilsner style ... as in the type of beer from the city of Pilsen, in Czechoslovakia!

What does this have to do with a new maker of fine Henry rifles?  Not much, but I'll bet that if you went over to the factory and ordered one of their fine looking Henry rifles, I'll bet the folks at Great Gun s. r. o. would happily share a stein or two of their finest Pils after the workday was finished!

"May Your Powder always be Dry and Black; Your Smoke always White; and Your Flames Always Light the Way to Eternal Shooting Fulfillment !"

Long Johns Wolf

SHB you nailed it - the Czech "invented" the Pilz type of beer and are a mostly beer drinking nation.
Great Gun is in the SW corner of the Czech Republic 4 miles from the Austrian and 3 miles from the Slovakian border. That area is probably the only region in the Czech Republiik where they grow and make wine. When the Great Gun guys are not in their shop they work in their wineyard.s And when we were there my buddy Bumble Bee & I got the full treatment ... at their expence ... red wine - beautiful Blaufränkischer - and the local brandy ... very tasty ... and no headache the next morning.
I guess when our 2 Henries are is completed next year we will not have them send but eventually collect them in Tvrdonice ... and purchase a case of the Blaufränkische as well.
Long Johns Wolf
BOSS 156, CRR 169 (Hon.), FROCS 2, Henry Board, SCORRS, STORM 229, SV Hofheim 1938, VDW, BDS, SASS

Russ McCrae

That settles it, get a .44spl '66 for the time being and then a .44spl Henry from these boys down the line! How hard would it be to get one of they're rifles to the USA?
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Marshal Deadwood

Id hock the farm for a custom/top shelf '73Winchester if they become a reality. Not that the Uberti's are bad, I think they are a fine rifle,,but whew,,,a super made '73 is the stuff dreams are made of. I always hoped USFA would do them.

Deadwood

PJ Hardtack

Re: Czech guns and Pilsner .... 't'ain't Cowboy, but .....

Another Czech-designed weapon copied and used by both the Germans and the Brits was the ZB 24/ZB 26/ZB 30 series of light MGs.
Manufactured under licence (mainly in Canada) and chambered in .303, the Bren (Br from Brno - en from Enfield) LMG was a mainstay of the British Commonwealth armies, even being chambered in the 7.62mm NATO round at the end of it's service life.

As for Pilsner, I was stationed in Germany not far from the town of Warstein, home of Warsteiner Pilsner, a naturally aged brew that wins prizes even in Germany, land of many good beers. By law, it takes at least 7 minutes to draw a glass of 'Pil'. The bar tender has to uses a spatula to scrape off the foam several times and it comes to you with a cone shaped head of foam.

A little more pricey than the average brew, but well worth it. The beer of the connoisseur!
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Steel Horse Bailey

Warsteiner!

Oh, happy days!  I remember WS Pils fondly, 'tho what we got in Fulda wasn't fresh like you got right from the Brauhaus!  When I was still a Mailman, I had a BW3 Pub on my route.  I ate lunch there occasionally.  One day I walked in with their mail and a couple guys were drinking beer & having lunch and one said to me that he was the manager and I could leave the mail with him rather than having to go back into the office to drop it off.  I noticed that they were drinking from mugs that had the Warsteiner Pils logo on them.  I commented about the beer and about being stationed in Germany and he gave me a couple of the glasses!  Nice guy!  They were a special issue from the distributor.
;)

My favorite is still Kreuzberg, however.  It is brewed by monks who take a vow of silence (Really!), in a Monastery, on top of a mountain, near Wildflecken, Germany. (a.k.a. - Wild Chicken to us GIs)  Superb!  But it is an acquired taste, I suppose.  I simply acquired the mug of beer, tasted it and loved it, but not everyone likes dark, almost sweet beer.  It is truly beer for the ages!  While I was there, the Monks celebrated 275 years of brewing their bier.



Yummy!


The Bren gun certainly also wins awards!
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Cal Fornia

Quote from: Marshal Deadwood on December 21, 2011, 07:41:39 PM
Id hock the farm for a custom/top shelf '73Winchester if they become a reality. Not that the Uberti's are bad, I think they are a fine rifle,,but whew,,,a super made '73 is the stuff dreams are made of. I always hoped USFA would do them.

Deadwood

Not a '73 Winchester, but a "contemporary" of the Henry:  http://www.romanorifle.com/html/spencer.html ... it's what I'd hock the farm for, if I had a farm to hock.



Pony Racer

Wow - pretty cool! ;D

I would agree that the price is not bad.  I recently got a 1866 Uberti short rifle in 44 special and had it converted to shoot 44 russian and set up to be smooth with BP rounds.

So between the rifle, the carrier kit from the 45 Cowboy special shop (thanks AJ!) and the gunsmith work and parts i think i am at about 1100.00.  And thats because i bought a rifle off the shelf that had not sold at shop for almost a year and the gunsmith and I are a good friends.  I got such a good deal - I asked him to keep the parts he replaced for what ever he needs them for.

Had a paid full price all the way around - I am sure I would have been at 1300-1400.00.

LJW keep us posted please...hmmmm maybe I really do need to get one of them senior level Liaison jobs over in Italy, Spain or Germany...

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Coffinmaker

LJW,

Did you get your Rifle yet??

Coffinmaker

Long Johns Wolf

Thanks for asking, Pards.
No, no Czech Henry yet I am afraid.
It is not scheduled to be completed before April. I will be very happy if I can hold it in June 2012.
I'll keep you posted.
Long Johns Wolf
BOSS 156, CRR 169 (Hon.), FROCS 2, Henry Board, SCORRS, STORM 229, SV Hofheim 1938, VDW, BDS, SASS

Herbert

Quote from: Cal Fornia on December 25, 2011, 07:03:31 AM
Not a '73 Winchester, but a "contemporary" of the Henry:  http://www.romanorifle.com/html/spencer.html ... it's what I'd hock the farm for, if I had a farm to hock.



I defintly agree on the Spencer ,if they could make a quality sporting modle Spencer,I would be a customer

Cal Fornia

Quote from: Herbert on February 13, 2012, 03:12:32 PM
I defintly agree on the Spencer ,if they could make a quality sporting modle Spencer,I would be a customer

All you gotta do is contact them, and tell them what you'd like.  If I had the money from my hocked farm, I'd be asking them for something custom-made to my specs, as to configuration (a military rifle cut down to a short-rifle configuration, with uprated sights and custom lever/muzzle-cap... oh, and that Stabler cut-off device).



Herbert

Quote from: Cal Fornia on February 15, 2012, 12:57:56 AM
All you gotta do is contact them, and tell them what you'd like.  If I had the money from my hocked farm, I'd be asking them for something custom-made to my specs, as to configuration (a military rifle cut down to a short-rifle configuration, with uprated sights and custom lever/muzzle-cap... oh, and that Stabler cut-off device).



That sound close to what I am after + set trigger and a Spencer cutt of instead of the Stabler cut off,somthing like the Germmer converted Spencers,IS ther a way to contact them in English.and so as to not up set any one too much ,,I do have a ion framed Henry that I all so treasure

Cal Fornia

Herbert, just call this number (the one in their site's home-page header):

(315) 695-2066

They're made in America, in Pennellville, New York.  I can't imagine they wouldn't be speaking english.

They also have an email button on the bottom of this page:  http://www.romanorifle.com/html/company.htm

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