renewal of pistol toting permit

Tater Pickens · September 07, 2011, 09:19:49 AM

I went to the probate court yesterday to renew my Georgia Firearms License and the clerk told me that under directive of the Department of Homeland Security they do not simply renew existing permits anymore, but that you have to go through the entire drill again of finger printing , filling out forms, etc as if you were a first time applicant-cost $55 cash to the Sheriff's Dept and $35 filing fee for the Probate Court. Totaol $90.00.

Have any of you fellas run into this when renewing your permits? If it is a directive from Homeland Security seems like it would pertain to all the states.

Being the cynical cuss that I am I don't know if this is true or just some money making scheme from out local gummint.

Tater Pickens

Camille Eonich · September 07, 2011, 09:58:22 AM

We had to go in this time for renewal but it was because NC was adding photos to the concealed carry permit. We didn't have to do any fingerprinting or testing.

August · September 07, 2011, 12:12:24 PM

I don't believe it.

Renewed last month and no additional fees were attendant.

It's O.K. if some municipality or State is that hungry for revenue that they set the fee higher. I get that. But, to blame it on the Feds is an outright lie and deception. They should hear from your attorney on this one.

I guess lies have taken the place of ideas and personal preferences in America. Too bad. That can't go anywhere good.

Durango Flinthart · September 07, 2011, 04:32:22 PM

About two years ago, Indiana started making a lifetime personal protection permit (in Indiana the pink permit) available in addition to the four year type (every four years you had to reapply, paperwork, fingerprints & background check).
If you held of a valid permit you could get the life time at a reduced rate. The cost of a four year permit is about $80, the life time permit about $150.

maarty · September 08, 2011, 03:24:18 AM

Quote from: Durango Flinthart on September 07, 2011, 04:32:22 PM
About two years ago, Indiana started making a lifetime personal protection permit (in Indiana the pink permit) available in addition to the four year type (every four years you had to reapply, paperwork, fingerprints & background check).
If you held of a valid permit you could get the life time at a reduced rate. The cost of a four year permit is about $80, the life time permit about $150.

In the 80's they introduced lifetime firearm licences here in NZ, every one had to go in and reapply for their FAL then ten years later everyone musta died cause that was the end of the lifetime licences (that explains why I'm such an angelic fellow) and everyone had to go back and pay more fees to get a ten year licence.
The original licences (pre lifetime) cost $45 and you just went in and asked for one, the lifetime licence cost $100 from memory and you had to sit a test, the ten year licence cost $85 to change from lifetime to ten year or $125 to apply for your first licence and you sit a test then have checks done on you, you have to give three referees who they question about you then they come and check you have good enough security , now they're up to $165 from memory to renew.
Don't even get me started on pistol, military style semi auto weapons, or collector licence costs and requirements.

Cookie · September 08, 2011, 10:14:17 AM

Quote from: August on September 07, 2011, 12:12:24 PM
They should hear from your attorney on this one.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

We've created a government that shuts down, on a regular basis, little kid's lemonade stands at the point of a gun / tazer.

You really think they're going to be intimidated by some pansy lawyer?

baddwolf7 · September 08, 2011, 07:59:30 PM

Here in Ky we have a 5 year permit, have to get new pic, fill out paperwork submit a renewal fee, not as much as new one but its no big deal, I have heard that if your ffl has your ccw on file it can let them use that for new purchases instead of filling out that dang long form, but dont quote me on that We also have open carry but it isnt adverstised, it isnt on the books but there isnt anything on the books against it either

Shotgun Franklin · September 08, 2011, 08:50:56 PM

I think it's BS that any State or the Feds can charge you a fee to exercise a Right. I'm a Cop with 34 years in service. IMO, if I contact a person who should NOT be carrying a gun that person should go straight to jail. As a general rule if you're not a convicted Felon or have been under detention for a Mental condition then you can carry.
Try charging a Pole Tax or a fee for having your Miranda Rights read to you. These gun fees for permits are blatantly wrong.

cpt dan blodgett · November 29, 2011, 10:28:45 AM

Don't really need to renew the permit anymore in AZ as anyone can carry concealed now. I do renew it. about 60- 90 days before expiration Department of Public Safety sends out renewal notice. Ya send them back a check ($65 I think suffer from CRS) and in about a week you get the new permit.

I do renew the permit as it allows me to purchase firearms without the brady check. Not sure if that is any benefit as the FFL still charges the $25.00 when I get an internet gun thru his shop. Part of the cost is supposed to cover the brady check fee. Guess they are really glad to see me as I save them $$$

Cliff Fendley · November 29, 2011, 12:51:45 PM

Quote from: baddwolf7 on September 08, 2011, 07:59:30 PM
Here in Ky we have a 5 year permit, have to get new pic, fill out paperwork submit a renewal fee, not as much as new one but its no big deal, I have heard that if your ffl has your ccw on file it can let them use that for new purchases instead of filling out that dang long form, but dont quote me on that We also have open carry but it isnt adverstised, it isnt on the books but there isnt anything on the books against it either

I believe you still have to fill out the form they just don't have to call it in. Mine had just been renewed just before they changed that so they still had to call mine in. Now they shouldn't have too since I just had mine renewed again.

There was a certain date that if you got your license or had in renewed after that date they don't have to call it in. Something about the way the background check is done.

J.D. Goodguy · November 29, 2011, 06:58:12 PM

The first ones issued under the law that said a background check MAY be done. That was changed in the next legislative session to say that the background check WILL be done. The earlier ones did not meet the BATFE standards and could not be used to be able to buy the gun without the phone call. The later ones having had a background check could be used to save the phone call. There is no original issue date on the renewals, so any now issued are being used by gunshops as conforming to the background check and they do not have to call it in after you fill out the paperwork. There was a bill proposed last session to do away with the permit process and go with a Vermont type law to allow anyone not prohibited from owning a gun to be able to carry concealed. The proposal never made it out of committee. JD

cpt dan blodgett · November 29, 2011, 10:05:13 PM

Quote from: Shotgun Franklin on September 08, 2011, 08:50:56 PM
I think it's BS that any State or the Feds can charge you a fee to exercise a Right. I'm a Cop with 34 years in service. IMO, if I contact a person who should NOT be carrying a gun that person should go straight to jail. As a general rule if you're not a convicted Felon or have been under detention for a Mental condition then you can carry.
Try charging a Pole Tax or a fee for having your Miranda Rights read to you. These gun fees for permits are blatantly wrong.

See nothing wrong with taxing the Poles, just don't try it on the Irish.

Sorry somebody had to make that poor joke, and I just could not pass up the oportunity ;-}