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Started by Noz, August 22, 2011, 02:41:38 PM

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Noz

Me and my 5.5" barreled 1860s get along really well when it comes to the gun handling but not so well in the hitting dept.

I got an opportunity to set down with them and ask what was wrong.
Right side gun hits 6.5" high at 7 yards.
Left side gun hits 3.5" high at 7 yards.
Windage is fine.

I can deepen the rear hammer notch to compensate BUT I have 8" barrels for the same frames that hit POA=POI so I don't want to mess that relationship up.

Since these are cowboy guns, why worry about it?  I shot the Prince of Pistoleers side match at the Prince of Pistoleers match in June of this year and it is a precision target match. Candle flames-silver dollars-corks ect. andI would like to use my match guns and do better than I did.  Also since I know they are shooting off, it's going to drive me nuts.

I need a higher front on both guns. The blade groove on an ASM is .0105. I hoped to find a coin that would fit but doesn't look like that's going to work. All US coins are too thin as is the peso.

I don't have access to machine tools to do a facing on bar stock so I need to find something easily available.

Thoughts

cpt dan blodgett

If the too thin coins are thick enough to see, you can fill the void with Silver Solder or what ever else you will want to use. 
What about arkade tokens?

If you want to spend more money than necessary a short section of the appropriate diameter rod and a hacksaw may give you something you can file / sand smooth and square enough
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rickk

File the front sight on the one that shoots only 3.5 " high so it shoots 6.5" high too and use a 6 o'clock or so hold?

Add more powder while you are at it?

A nickle is about .065. I wonder if JB weld would make up the difference?

1/8" brass stock from the hardware store can be made thinner with sand paper or a file pretty easily and solders well. You will want about .005 - .010 or so on each side of the sight for the solder to run into or it will not take solder well.

Mako will have better ideas I am sure.


fourfingersofdeath

Tell me what thickness you need and the diameter of the coin you need. I think most of our coins are a bit thicker, I will post you a couple (5cents is the smallest demoniation we use now, but I have some kicking about somewhere.
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Sir Charles deMouton-Black

Noz said .0105"  I think he meant .105".

A worn US 1937 Indian head/buffalo nickel is .07" thick.

A couple of old copper QE II coronation commemorative coins are each .095".  That is closer. I got them from the grab box at a coin collectors shop.  You might get lucky ???
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Fox Creek Kid

Just my 2 cents: send the barrels off and have dovetails cut & sights fitted. There are 2 or 3 people who post in the forum who will do it I believe. Lot less hassle and yes, it is period correct.

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Noz

Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on August 22, 2011, 11:39:11 PM
Just my 2 cents: send the barrels off and have dovetails cut & sights fitted. There are 2 or 3 people who post in the forum who will do it I believe. Lot less hassle and yes, it is period correct.

http://www.stevesguns.com/SightSG.htm

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Yeah, .105.

Mako

Hey Noz, just saw your post.

Fourfingersofdeath is right, I think Australian coins are currently the thickest in the commonly available coins.  In fact I think the Australian $2 coin is about 1/8" thick.  It might be worth a small envelope sent from the other side of the world if you want a coin.

You can always cut a piece of bar stock with a hacksaw and then sand it down to thickness.  It is a lot of work to do by hand as you lap the slug back and forth across progressively finer abrasive paper, but you can do it.

I know you may want to do it yourself, but there is another guy in Texas named Lonnie Ammann.

Lonnie Ammann
Tejas Long Rifles Hearne, TX 77859
1-800-952-1299
979-279-3400
979-279-5859

He stakes the sights in.  Anymore it's hard  to find anyone who does that.  He does cowboy guns and actually does or did work for Cimarron.  He will make you a sight whatever height you want and they look original.

What material do you want the sight to be made from?

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Noz

Quote from: Mako on August 23, 2011, 12:26:06 PM
Hey Noz, just saw your post.

Fourfingersofdeath is right, I think Australia coins are currently the thickest in the commonly available coins.  In fact I think the Australian $2 coin is about 1/8" thick.  It might be worth a small envelope sent from the other side of the world if you want a coin.

You can always cut a piece of bar stock with a hacksaw and then sand it down to thickness.  It is a lot of work to do by hand as you lap the slug back and forth across progressively finer abrasive paper, but you can do it.

I know you may want to do it yourself, but there is another guy in Texas named Lonnie Ammann.

Lonnie Ammann
Tejas Long Rifles Hearne, TX 77859
1-800-952-1299
979-279-3400
979-279-5859

He stakes the sights in.  Anymore it's hard  to find anyone who does that.  He does cowboy guns and actually does or did work for Cimarron.  He will make you a sight whatever height you want and they look original.

What material do you want the sight to be made from?

~Mako
I called Lonnie and left a message. Thanks

fourfingersofdeath

I had a two buck coin in my fob pocket, I can't find my vernier for love nor money, but I held it up against a straight edge. Not very satisfactory, but it measures about 3/32" think. It is gold coloured.
All my cowboy gun's calibres start with a 4! It's gotta be big bore and whomp some!

BOLD No: 782
RATS No: 307
STORM No:267


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