1873 won't feed..

Cash Creek · May 01, 2011, 02:50:24 PM

I have a new rifle Uberti 1873, 45lc.. that won't feed the ammo in to the barrel, it starts in till the lead gets about 3/4 in but then stops..and jams... but I can use a car key and just barely touch the shell and it drops right in.

Any Idea?

Pancho Peacemaker · May 01, 2011, 02:58:12 PM

1) Any modifictions to the rifle?
2) New or used rifle
3) Ammo specs (esp. overall length)?

Tjackstephens · May 01, 2011, 03:10:39 PM

Also is it round nose flat point? Round nose, semi wad cutter or what? The regular cowboy bullet round nose flat point works best. Tj

River City John · May 01, 2011, 05:07:29 PM

Check to make sure it's not a .44-40 . . .

Then, if it is reloaded ammo, check to make sure it was crimped properly. Had a recent experience where I was kindly loaned some ammo by a Pard and it turned out they hadn't been crimped. First round jammed in the chamber. Got it out but of course couldn't cycle the rounds out of the magazine, had to take it to a gunsmith to get the rounds out of the magazine, as one was stuck within the carrier.

RCJ

Cash Creek · May 01, 2011, 07:54:07 PM

New rifle, it says 45LC on it..bullets are round nose flat point and 1.58 long..No modifications,
the bullets go in about a 1/4 inch and stops..I can move the bullet just a bit and point the rifle down and the bullets drop in under it's own weight..after I do get the bullet in and shoot it ejects it ok, next bullet same thing..
I'm going to take it back to the dealer in the morning..I said in a earlier I would look pretty walking around with it..well I didn't look so pretty use a car key to make a NEW Ubrerti shoot..

Stillwater · May 01, 2011, 08:03:36 PM

Quote from: Cash Creek on May 01, 2011, 07:54:07 PM

New rifle, it says 45LC on it..bullets are round nose flat point and 5.80 long..

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A 45 Colt cartridge, that is 5.80 inches long... I don't think that is right. Would you like to try that again?

Bill

Cherokee Bob · May 01, 2011, 09:18:20 PM

Quote from: Stillwater on May 01, 2011, 08:03:36 PM
A 45 Colt cartridge, that is 5.80 inches long... I don't think that is right. Would you like to try that again?

Bill

Maybe 5.80 cm = 2.283 inches

Still too lomg for a 45LC. Total length of cartridge should be about 1.60" wiith bullet crimped. The bullet diameter should be 0.454".

The closest match to 2.83" in a 0.45 caliiber would be a 460 S&W Magnum at 2.275" total length and a 0.452 bullet diameter."

Are you sure you don't have some 460 S&W Magnum ammo there? The cartridge would drop in the chamber if not mated to bolt. If trying to cycle no good at all.

PS = My data is from the "Hornady Handbook Of Cartridge Reloading" 8th Edition.

Major 2 · May 02, 2011, 05:38:57 AM

My guess one or both lifter springs ...is causing a misaligning of the carrier

Cash Creek · May 02, 2011, 09:10:21 AM

5.80 is a bit long..it should have been 1.58... told you I was mad...LOL

Stillwater · May 02, 2011, 06:17:38 PM

Quote from: Cash Creek on May 02, 2011, 09:10:21 AM
5.80 is a bit long..it should have been 1.58... told you I was mad...LOL

That is OK, madness runs in a lot of families... Mine too...

Bill

Cash Creek · May 27, 2011, 09:54:41 PM

Got my 73 back today,

going to run a few hundred rounds in it Saturday and Sunday and maybe it and I will be ready for the National..

Major 2 · May 28, 2011, 06:49:50 AM

And ? the problem was ? $:-\$

Cash Creek · May 28, 2011, 09:11:43 AM

It has a name but I don't remember what he said..it's the brass part that raises the bullets up they replace it..

Tjackstephens · May 28, 2011, 09:33:53 AM

Cash, Hope that rifle is working and you can use it for the National. The e-mail that I check all the time is Tjackstephens@yahoo.com Tj

Major 2 · May 28, 2011, 10:16:35 AM

Quote from: Cash Creek on May 28, 2011, 09:11:43 AM
It has a name but I don't remember what he said..it's the brass part that raises the bullets up they replace it..

Carrier Block

Cash Creek · May 28, 2011, 12:22:43 PM

Quote from: Tjackstephens on May 28, 2011, 09:33:53 AM
Cash, Hope that rifle is working and you can use it for the National. The e-mail that I check all the time is Tjackstephens@yahoo.com Tj

I got me a back up rifle just in case I have trouble with the NEW one..they just don't make them like they use to..

Cash Creek · May 29, 2011, 03:08:42 PM

Shot another 100 today going to take more that 200 rounds to loosening this rifle up..I might have to shoot a 100 each day next week..

WaddWatsonEllis · May 29, 2011, 07:36:51 PM

Cash, et al,

I have a .45LC-reset-for-.45-Schofield Taylors/Uberti/Codymatic Model '73 Winchester Reproduction. The ONLY problem I had with the rifle was a 'carrier block' ... but self induced ...

It seems some of the reloaded .45 Schofield (already 0.2" shorter than .45 LC) was just a wee bit shorter in OAL than the rifle could handle ... allowing the rim of the next bullet in the tube to go onto the carrier and jam the rifle solidly when the carrier tried to raise up ...

So a heads up might be to check your ammo OAL ... and if it is too short or long just shoot it in your revolver.

Just my $0.02

Steel Horse Bailey · June 07, 2011, 07:59:25 PM

Good suggestion, WWE (Skip) but if his ammo stays consistent at the 1.58" OAL he mentioned, he should have no problems. I go with the Lifter and mis-adjusted lifter springs.

Cash, you didn't say whether the rounds you've fired since getting it back have been chambered well or not, but I'll bet it is OK now. when all that internal brass gets comfy after firing those 200-300 "break-in" rounds it'll purr like a kitten.

Best of luck in Evansville! I can't shoot this year, but I hope to be there on Friday to watch and mingle with friends!

Cash Creek · June 07, 2011, 08:34:29 PM

Shot Monday and Tuesday around 150 rounds..and the gun loaded just find..now if I could ONLY get it to hit the target.

See you on Friday..CC