My New (to me) COLT 1851 Navy .36 (2nd Gen)

[PAMuzzleshooter]

Just got my first Colt.   Even had the wife's permission.





Bullet Mold and Nipple wrench missing, but they knocked $50 off the price.  Any suggestions on where to get them? 

All serials match including serial on Cylinder Arbor and barrel wedge.  Serial indicates 1974.

Will be disassembling it tomorrow to check the innards.

[St. George]

At one time - EMF had all of the correctly-marked Colt accessories left over from before the 'Signature Series' production began.

The mould was marked - the wrench wasn't

Might be worth a call.

Otherwise, Dixie should have un-marked stuff.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[Bishop Creek]

Here is a link to a 2nd Gen .36 bullet mould:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/941476039/Non-Guns/Black-Powder-Muzzleloading/Colt_2nd_Generation_36_Cal_Mold.htm

[kurt250]

you will like them. i have collected all of them and shoot them all.  i make my own combustable paper cartridges. they shoot great with them. the manual that comes with the 51 navys calls for a .378"dia. ball. you will find it hard to find. i use a .380" dia. witch works fine. p.m me if you want info on combustable cartridges. kurt250

[PAMuzzleshooter]

Thanks all.  Will have to hold off on the Mold for a while...wife understood the gun,  not so much on the mold, even with my $50 discount.

Kurt250,  PM sent for combustible cartridges, much appreciated.

[PAMuzzleshooter]

OK folks,  would you shoot it or save it for it's value and just look and it sayin' how purty it is?

[Pettifogger]

You paid $450.00 for it.  When you die it might be worth $500.00.  Is it worth it to deprive you of the joy of shooting it so your heirs can pocket an extra fifty bucks?  Shoot it!  It is not a collector's item.  It is a collectible.  Sort of like Elvis collector plates.  Have fun, you owe it to yourself!

[Bishop Creek]

You paid $450.00 for it.  When you die it might be worth $500.00.  Is it worth it to deprive you of the joy of shooting it so your heirs can pocket an extra fifty bucks?  Shoot it!  It is not a collector's item.  It is a collectible.  Sort of like Elvis collector plates.  Have fun, you owe it to yourself!

Yes, shoot it! I shoot my 2nd Generation Colt's 1860 Army. Shoot a real Colt's percussion revolver and have fun:

[St. George]

Shoot it.

That's why they were built.

Shooting it and maintaining it won't hurt it at all.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[PAMuzzleshooter]

Thanks guys,  I'm not going to shoot it, I'm just going to sit here and admire it.



At least til it quits raining!!! Then off to the range.  Yee Haaaah!!

[PAMuzzleshooter]

What type lubricant do you use for the innards and the cylinder pin (arbor)

[St. George]

You're going to get a number of suggestions, because everyone has their favorites - but I use Pro-Shot's 'Pro-Gold' on pretty much every bearing surface in all that I shoot.

It stays where it's supposed to under wildly varying conditions, and SIG was using it in their 'underwater' demo when they were entering our military market with M11's.

Good stuff, that.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[Pettifogger]

Everyone has their favorite oil for the internals.  A LOT of BP shooters use Ballistol.  For the arbor you need grease.  If you just oil it the fouling will blow down the arbor and it will get hard to turn ASAP.  Bore Butter works well and can be obtained at most large gun or sports stores.

[PAMuzzleshooter]

St. George - Thanks, I'll check with my brother, I'm sure he has it.

Pettifogger - Just picked up a tube Bore Butter last night.  Thought that might be what to use.  I knew it was not oil.

[Fox Creek Kid]

I like natural lubes as they are easier to clean afterwards with soap & water as opposed to modern lubricants. Here's what I use on the cylinder pins:

http://www.octobercountry.com/products3.php?productid=157

[Doc Sunrise]

Shoot the sky black baby!  They weren't built with better metal just to sit wondering if someone was going to be man enough to light the fire in their belly.

[PAMuzzleshooter]

How much should I put on the arbor?  Light coat or heavy coat?

Should it go the full length or just the spiral cuts?

Also, The hammer roller does not rotate all the way around.  It goes about 3/4 way in both directions but hits a stopping point.  I have it soaking in Ballistol for a day. 

Should I pop the pin and clean inside?  What to use steel or brass pin punch?

Where would be best place to get parts for a COLT 2nd Gen (not Uberti or Pietta)

[St. George]

Ballistol should work - so should Kroil.

The roller doesn't 'need' to move much, but if you really think you need one, use a brass punch to remove, and look inside the slot for a burr or other impediment.

Dixie Gun Works did (and probably still does) have the necessary Colt factory parts - but remember - your weapon was made by Uberti.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[kurt250]

pam, shoot them. i have been shooting mine for over 25 years and they work great. there are plenty around that come in the box with all the papers if you want one. i have everyone of them and shoot them all. the walker, 1860 army ,and 51 navys are the ones i like the most. as to pin grease i use a commercial grease called water pimp grease. it seems ti work the best for me. its a tan thick grease for packing pump bearings. holds up well. i just slap it on the pin and the front of the cylinders. as to cleaning," super clean" from napa auto supply 1 to 1 mix with water cleans everything .i take the pistol completely apart every 500 round to clean the insides. in general cleaning a spray bottle of super clean a tooth brush and a few patches and in 5 min. im done. remember there guns and were made to be shot. some people take there guns apart every time they shoot them. it just wears them out . in the civil war the army didn't tear apart every gun after use. they cleaned them and then oiled them. thats how i do it and i'll match barrel and gun condition with anyone. kurt250

[Pettifogger]

JUST GO SHOOT IT.  You're over thinking everything.  The quickest way to learn what and where to lube is to SHOOT IT!.  When you take it apart for cleaning you will see where the fouling on the arbor its.  Cap and ball is based on experience, not book learnin.  SHOOT IT.