New EMF Great Western II

Virginia Gentleman · February 24, 2011, 12:34:16 AM

The chances of Colt being successful in such a suit would be nil, but the decision is his yet in my mind it caves into Colt not to mention ruins the authenticity. I guess I could try to find an older one and have the patent dates stamped or engraved in the frame.

Curley Cole · February 24, 2011, 03:31:47 PM

VG
The earlier GW's have the dates Most of mine do. If it was important to you and you wanted to go to the expense...a good gunsmith would have the tools to do "restamping".

Bob Shaw (RIP) when he fitted a set of Colt Eagle grips laughingly was telling me that he could make my GW into a Colt and that almost no one would ever be able to tell the difference.

But, frankly, my BBQ gunz (custom nickel and REAL elephant ivory grips) are one early GW and one later GW, and no one has ever noticed the difference. In fact most of the time they mistakenly assume that they are real Colts.

But, it is what a person prefers, and I believe that a gun is such a personal thing, and it should be as close to exactly what that person wants in his gun...

good shootin curley

Fox Creek Kid · February 25, 2011, 08:13:16 PM

Quote from: Curley Cole on February 24, 2011, 03:31:47 PM...If it was important to you and you wanted to go to the expense...a good gunsmith would have the tools to do "restamping"...

True, & I knew at least two who have such stamps. HOWEVER, you will have to have the frame annealed and then re-case colored or renickelled. The stamps will break on a hardened frame.

Old Doc · March 02, 2011, 01:46:46 PM

Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on February 25, 2011, 08:13:16 PM
True, & I knew at least two who have such stamps. HOWEVER, you will have to have the frame annealed and then re-case colored or renickelled. The stamps will break on a hardened frame.

I am far from being a metallurgist but I thnk the problem you mention with annealing the frame would apply only to guns with true bone case hardening not the case-colored frames that we see so often on the clones.

Fox Creek Kid · March 05, 2011, 05:44:02 PM

Quote from: Old Doc on March 02, 2011, 01:46:46 PM
I am far from being a metallurgist but I thnk the problem you mention with annealing the frame would apply only to guns with true bone case hardening not the case-colored frames that we see so often on the clones.

The Italian SAA's are hard steel, but the person with the stamps will not stamp any gun unless spot annealed. That is of course unless you want pay for the stamp if it breaks & they run several hundreds of dollars. How do I know? I asked years ago about such a project.

There seems to be a general misunderstanding between case colored & case hardened. A frame can be case hardened yet not have the vibrant Colt style colors.

Old Doc · March 05, 2011, 10:03:16 PM

I just remember talking to someone at Turnbull once about re-finishing and he said that you cannot refinish the case hardening process on something like a Colt without annealing it first.

Slickshot · July 03, 2011, 02:29:37 AM

How much did one of them Great Western II's set you back?

They look GREAT!

Slickshot

Curley Cole · July 04, 2011, 01:51:41 AM

This is one of my early GW2's and it is true case hardened by Turnbull (bone..)

and the other pix of one of my early Dakotas and it was "case colored" if you will. It was probably chemically applied, but has held up well. I have had it since 1980

good shootin
curley