Flipped brim hats?

icemaster109 · February 11, 2011, 01:16:24 AM

So as I have been studying and trying to develop what character I want to portray (that of a working cowboy

) I have noticed in my research many pictures by Frederic Remington with cowboys and their hats. Their hats seem to usually flipped in the front or back.

I wanted to ask a few questions about this.

1. Is this accurate?
2. Where can I find a hat like this?

Thanks

FEATHERS · February 11, 2011, 04:11:08 AM

If you take a look at www.riverjunction.com they have a lot of period wares

liten · February 11, 2011, 04:45:49 AM

you can easly do that your self , buy a hat you like ,wet the front of brim , secure the reguired bend let it dry , presto

Delmonico · February 11, 2011, 09:34:36 AM

A couple threads about working on hats:

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,11542.0.html

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,11520.0.html

As I've said many times before, wetting a hat with water is the slow way to do work on a hat and is only needed in rare cases or when working on palm leaf hats. Use steam, anyone who owns a hat needs to own a tea kettle.

If you local western store don't carry hat stiffener make it yourself out of bleached natural shellac and denatured alcohol. Thin it enough to go through a spray bottle and use no more than you have to, never use hair spray or starch to stiffen a hat.

And yes hats with the brims flipped up show up in a lot of historical pictures.

JimBob · February 11, 2011, 08:43:39 PM

Some of you folks looking for hats to modify and don't want to spend a bunch of money check out the auction site at http://www.shopgoodwill.com Use the search feature and type in western or cowboy.

liten · February 11, 2011, 11:17:25 PM

yes thats right my homemade flipped brim is the way to go

Delmonico · February 11, 2011, 11:42:54 PM

Quote from: liten on February 11, 2011, 11:17:25 PM
yes thats right my homemade flipped brim is the way to go

Well we're all glad you came along and explained to us how to shape hats, we'd have never know how to with out you.

Curley Cole · February 12, 2011, 01:45:35 AM

Here is a shot of mine....I had it made this way from Golden Gate Hats..(Knudesen.)

curley

Delmonico · February 12, 2011, 07:58:17 AM

Quote from: Curley Cole on February 12, 2011, 01:45:35 AM

Here is a shot of mine....I had it made this way from Golden Gate Hats..(Knudesen.)

curley

I forgot you wore one Curly. I think one reason you don't see more of them is that among the followers of the "John Ford Referance Library" they are thought of as only worn by some goofy sidekick. I remember doing one at work a couple years ago for someone. As he was looking in the mirror some guy came in and commented that it was they type of hat a dork would wear. Of course the guy with the stupid comment was one of the bar/rodeo crowd.

GunClick Rick · February 12, 2011, 11:40:11 PM

icemaster109 · February 13, 2011, 11:09:35 AM

So many decisions I - I still can't decide!

Delmonico · February 13, 2011, 11:23:16 AM

Quote from: icemaster109 on February 13, 2011, 11:09:35 AM
So many decisions I - I still can't decide!

Get a hat the color you want and start steaming it and shaping it the way you think you want it. If it don't come out right, just re-steam it and try again. Hats are like modeling clay, you can just keep changing the shape all you want.

GunClick Rick · February 13, 2011, 01:42:07 PM

Play this while shapin to get in the right mood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wejj8G9ZoXY&feature=related

Delmonico · February 13, 2011, 08:07:31 PM

Quote from: liten on February 13, 2011, 04:19:56 PM
well when you make up your mind , post it on here , and we give you a out 10 but dont tell us how you made the curl, especialy del

Interesting you don't want to learn the right way to do things. Seems far to common in the world today.

liten · February 13, 2011, 08:32:49 PM

the last time i put tea kettlle steam to a hat i destroyed my sweat band , so you really got to no what yr doing when you put the kettle on a, i found hot water the safest way of moulding yr hat

Delmonico · February 14, 2011, 12:30:08 AM

Quote from: liten on February 13, 2011, 08:32:49 PM
the last time i put tea kettlle steam to a hat i destroyed my sweat band , so you really got to no what yr doing when you put the kettle on a, i found hot water the safest way of moulding yr hat

Some folks could destroy a crow bar in a sand box. In case you haven't figured it out, there is one of us here that does this as a living and I doubt it's you. If you destroyed your hat band it's because you have no idea what you are doing or else you are BSing us, I suspect the latter. Go into any place that works on hats as a business, they use steam for 99% of any shaping they do on hats. This forum is for exchanging good information, not for someone with a total lack of knowledge to give bad advice.

Curley Cole · February 14, 2011, 02:24:14 AM

Del:

Why Del, I "represent" that remark...ahhhhh. Me and Old Top have been takin turns playin the "goofy sidekick" for nigh on 50 years.
You should see some of the head gear we have taken upon our knots...

curley

liten · February 14, 2011, 02:28:34 AM

ok ok point taken! all im saying i found hot water the safer option , steaming can be tricky for a first timer and best left to the expert ,

Curley Cole · February 14, 2011, 02:43:58 AM

Old Top's turn at the sidekick...

curley

Marshal Deadwood · February 14, 2011, 07:51:55 AM

Use hot water. If you don't have another cowboy hat to wear while that one drys....you don't have enough cowboy hats. I find the shower the perfect place to shape my hat.

Do not use boiling water.... and steam can cook the fibers. These hats are made out of animal stuff......the same animals you can cook.

MD