Officers Embroidered Crossed Rifle Hat and Cap Devices

Started by cpt dan blodgett, February 10, 2011, 11:14:58 PM

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captmack

Quote from: cpt dan blodgett on February 10, 2011, 11:14:58 PM
In 1875 reg effective 1876 the hunting horn went away (good thing) and was replaced with Crossed Rifles

Does any one made embroidered Crossed Rifles for Hats and Caps??

Howdy Dan,

Coon Creek Old West sells the embr crossed rifles patch.  That is where I got mine.

Mack

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liten

we have been there with the capt,  thats a enlisted badge,

captmack

Quote from: liten on May 08, 2011, 08:47:56 PM
we have been there with the capt,  thats a enlisted badge,

Well, on my hat it's an officer's badge.
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liten

looks a bit aftermarket and i dont think hes in the 25th,, it will have to go tho the board of experts, before that go,s on his hat :-\ troopers drydock and jimbob will no

cpt dan blodgett

Quote from: liten on May 06, 2011, 01:08:23 AM
im lost not sure who the captain wants be  ;D

In a previous life I was a CPT of Infantry.  Want to be a character who is an infantry officer during a period where the branch color was infantry blue (so my actual shoulder boards are correct) and the branch insignia was crossed rifles.  That makes the period 76 - 85 or post 1902

Ideally 6th infantry insignia, but just plain crossed rifles would work
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Drydock

We make do with what we can get.  Perhaps a bit big, but acceptable, Contractors from that era  were all over the place in size, material  and composition.  Use it until you can find better, if ever.  We're here to enjoy ourselves!
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Niederlander

Quote from: Drydock on May 14, 2011, 06:41:49 PM
We make do with what we can get.  Perhaps a bit big, but acceptable, Contractors from that era  were all over the place in size, material  and composition.  Use it until you can find better, if ever.  We're here to enjoy ourselves!
Couldn't have said it better myself!
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liten

na dont agree to many reenactors do the make do thing and you end up with no uniformity in the ranks at all

Pitspitr

Quote from: liten on May 16, 2011, 05:17:39 AM
na dont agree to many reenactors do the make do thing and you end up with no uniformity in the ranks at all
Was it John Bourke or Charles King who said, "The only thing uniform was our lack of uniformity."?

I've been "making due" with a M-1874 type III meat can for about 20 years. I keep looking for a M-1872 but so far the only one I've found was over $500 and was rusted out, making it unsuitable for boiling my coffee in.  :-\
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Niederlander

We're not re-enactors, or even un-dead historians.  I've never seen two people at a Muster portraying the same unit, so uniformity is a non issue.  We, for all intents and purposes, took the sport of Cowboy Action Shooting and converted it into a sport where we shoot battle rifles and suitable handguns at steel targets instead of only lever action, pistol caliber rifles and single action pistols.  We do it in military garb because that's what we prefer to play the game in.  We're not going to turn into "Stitch-Nazis" because it drives everyone but the anal retentives off in short order.  (Why do you think the General Miles Marching and Chowder Society doesn't exist anymore?) I personally love to see people come out in museum quality uniforms and equipment, but I'm also thrilled when someone actually comes out and shoots with a uniform or outfit that just gives the right "look" or "feel" from a little distance.  We most definitely have room for both, and we have a good time doing it.
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River City John

Quote from: Niederlander on May 16, 2011, 06:36:23 AM
We're not re-enactors, or even un-dead historians.  I've never seen two people at a Muster portraying the same unit, so uniformity is a non issue.  We, for all intents and purposes, took the sport of Cowboy Action Shooting and converted it into a sport where we shoot battle rifles and suitable handguns at steel targets instead of only lever action, pistol caliber rifles and single action pistols.  We do it in military garb because that's what we prefer to play the game in.  We're not going to turn into "Stitch-Nazis" because it drives everyone but the anal retentives off in short order.  (Why do you think the General Miles Marching and Chowder Society doesn't exist anymore?) I personally love to see people come out in museum quality uniforms and equipment, but I'm also thrilled when someone actually comes out and shoots with a uniform or outfit that just gives the right "look" or "feel" from a little distance.  We most definitely have room for both, and we have a good time doing it.

Well said, Ned.

RCJ
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liten

oh thats strange i thought i was in the barracks ,that was built by the grand army of the frontier, where rules and regulations apply ???

Delmonico

Quote from: liten on May 16, 2011, 06:59:24 PM
oh thats strange i thought i was in the barracks ,that was built by the grand army of the frontier, where rules and regulations apply ???

Since you seem to be an "expert" on about everything or so you try to make us think in your posts, perhaps a few pictures of your uniforms and equipment would be in order soon, or perhaps as I'm guessing they don't exist.   ;)  We'd like to see them with you in then and perhaps you would even be so kind as to tell us where your barracks are.
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liten

if you have any issues with one of the troopers uniform , please take it up with the comanding officer or leave the barracks. thank you

Delmonico

Quote from: liten on May 16, 2011, 08:29:32 PM
if you have any issues with one of the troopers uniform , please take it up with the comanding officer or leave the barracks. thank you

As I figured, all blow, no show, I doubt you have so much as a piece of a uniform.  Are you a troll on any other websites or just this one?
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

liten

i can see its going have to be a armed guard off the premises and escorted back to the nearist hat shop, that will have you  ;D

River City John

Quote from: liten on May 16, 2011, 06:59:24 PM
oh thats strange i thought i was in the barracks ,that was built by the grand army of the frontier, where rules and regulations apply ???

liten,

This will explain my support of Ned's statement:

12. Authenticity. The level of authenticity is up to the individual member based on their particular interest, the availability of the items, and cost considerations. Since 19th century uniform regulations were not as precise, clothing was tailor made or modified, and some items were worn after newer items were authorized, GAF members who enter a GAF uniform competition should be prepared to explain any deviations from the uniform regulations of the period.

Regulation Uniforms. A regulation uniform is defined as one that reasonably follows the uniform regulations for a particular country or service for a specified time period. Reference should be made to the official regulations as well as images of the period.
Silver Screen Uniforms. Uniforms based on those worn in film and on TV are perfectly acceptable for wear in the GAF.

My italics.
GAF does not mandate historical accuracy.

RCJ
"I was born by the river in a little tent, and just like the river I've been running ever since." - Sam Cooke
"He who will not look backward with reverence, will not look forward with hope." - Edmund Burke
". . .freedom is not everything or the only thing, perhaps we will put that discovery behind us and comprehend, before it's too late, that without freedom all else is nothing."- G. Warren Nutter
NCOWS #L146
GAF #275

Delmonico

John, what we have here is what is known on the internet as a troll.
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Drydock

Liten: We are not a military organization,  nor paramilitary, nor reinactors, certianly not stitch  counters.  We are a social group interested in the weapons  and  lore of the Victorian era military.  We like to shoot, have fun, attempt to dress the part, and sit around the fire, wether for real or in cyberspace, and tell our stories.

You called for my opinion, then did not accept it.  If enforced regulations, inspections and uniformity in the ranks are what you desire, I would suggest heading over to your nearest recruiter and signing up.  I did that for 20  years.  I regret none of it, but that part of my life is over.

And certianly never, in all my years of service, aboard any ship I crewed, did I ever even consider insulting the COOK!

And now would  the moderator please close this thread.
Civilize them with a Krag . . .

Pitspitr

Yes, as it seems to be going nowhere fast it would appear to best :(
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Jerry M. "Pitspitr" Davenport
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Grand Army of the Frontier
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