Can someone explain this for me?

Wild Billy Potts · February 04, 2011, 06:02:11 PM

NCOWS Originals class. I read the web sight but wasn't sure of everything about it. Does 2 guns mean it's a 2 gun only category? Any other particulars would be great.

Irish Dave · February 04, 2011, 06:50:39 PM

Hopefully one of the pards who shoots in the Originals class will chime in with more details, but yes, in short it is a 2-gun class. FWIW, however, NCOWS' Working Cowboy is also a 2-gun class, but the two classes are worlds apart in scoring and requirements.

Major 2 · February 04, 2011, 07:19:40 PM

In a nut shell.... you research an impression and build your persona around it.
Basically a persona of your own biography and imagination , document everything , your kit and the era you are portraying...

There several examples, Doc Bob's , Ottawa Creek Bill's etc. on the NCOWS website.

It's scored partly by your peers (the other originals), as to your impression, and partly the two gun action.
It is a level above level 3

Pancho Peacemaker · February 04, 2011, 07:52:27 PM

I've never competed in Originals, but I hope to get there some day.

To me, the "Originals" class is our "master" level competition. The shooting (yes it is two gun) is only a small part. You must be a true student of history to compete. The winner of the "Originals" class is not just a good shot. They have a high level of knowledge of the Old West.

Competitors are judged on their persona and their historic documentation. Some folks will draw up authentic Union Army discharge papers. Some will carry replica scrip correct to their period. Their "kit" (clothing, leather, camping site, etc...) is judged based on it's historic accuracy. Ex: if your persona is an 1870 Confederate veteran, you'd best not have a Winchester '73 as your long arm. Judging will include details such as the style of timepiece you carry, your style of gunleather, and even the items you carry in your pants pocket.

Dr. Bob is one of my favorite "Originals" to hang around. His persona is a medical doctor who is wealthy and well travelled. His dress is always dapper and he travels with fine china and a very nice spirit cabinet fitting a gentleman of his station. He even sleeps with a handmade quilt that was made in the 1870's.

In NCOWS, you usually only see the "Originals" class at major regional or national level competition.

(Of note, this is the only class in NCOWS where your clothing and accessories are judged. Other classes must have pre-1900 style clothing and leather, but your dress is not judged for competition.)

Ima Sure Shot · February 04, 2011, 09:49:48 PM

Also of note is in the, "The Originals" the two guns, are any two guns you would have carried. So it can be two rifles, rifle and shotgun, two pistols, two shotguns, rifle and pistol, shotgun and pistol. Although so far I think most have used rifle and pistol. The other limiting factor is there must be at least three present at a shoot before the class is honored, as they judge each other. Celeste

Will Ketchum · February 05, 2011, 11:41:12 AM

There is a motion on the agenda of the 33rd congress to change the "any 2 guns" to a revolver and a rifle" in order to make scoring easier..

Books has made the motion and can elaborate on the particulars.

Will Ketchum

Major 2 · February 05, 2011, 11:50:51 AM

Dr. Bob is one of my favorite "Originals" to hang around.

MINE TOO !

Ima Sure Shot · February 05, 2011, 11:58:43 AM

I would say the scoring for the originals is different. However, if all you are interested in is winning the shooting part, then enter the working cowboys for one rifle and one pistol. That class (one rifle and one pistol) is already there. In fairness, I do not shoot in the originals class.Celeste

Texas Lawdog · February 05, 2011, 06:42:17 PM

Doctor Bob is good folks to visit with. He and I hit it off right off the bat. I'll get to see him and a bunch of my NCOWS friends at the Convention. He is a Dapper Dan.

Books OToole · February 08, 2011, 09:46:54 AM

Quote from: Will Ketchum on February 05, 2011, 11:41:12 AM
There is a motion on the agenda of the 33rd congress to change the "any 2 guns" to a revolver and a rifle" in order to make scoring easier..

Books has made the motion and can elaborate on the particulars.

Will Ketchum

In the five years that the "Originals" class has exsisted, no participant has shot with any combination other that 1 rifle and 1 pistol.
(There have be discussions on how we would score other combinations and no satisfactory conclusions have been reached.)

Therefore I proposed the change.

Books

Buffalow Red · February 08, 2011, 03:19:15 PM

so you can only shoot original firearms is that right not reproductions

Tascosa Joe · February 08, 2011, 03:42:14 PM

No, you can shoot reproductions, but they have to match your character, time, and place. The type of weapon must be documented to the time period.

Dr. Bob · February 08, 2011, 10:17:54 PM

Howdy,

The Originals shoot the same course of fire as the Working Cowboy class. As Books pointed out that has been 1 revolver and 1 rifle. Each shooter selects a persona and a year to recreate. All clothing & equipment must be documented to the year and persona. This must be written out and approved by 3 Originals. After the shooting each shooter rates the others on a form. In the 5 years that there has been an Original Class the top shooter has always been the winner.

If anyone wants to talk about the Original Class, my phone number is 816-716-8866 I am usually available from Noon to Midnight. I have a large amount of roll over minutes and can call you back if that is a problem. I am not the foremost authority, but have shot in the class since it was a side match at Ackley in 2005 at the Nationals. If you like to research, it will be enjoyable. If not, Working Cowboy is the same course of fine without any documentations requirement. All the Original members are willing to help steer you toward sources of documentation.