Loading Data for the 45-60 WCF

Pitchy · May 26, 2012, 08:27:51 AM

Thanks, that`s what i needed, a starting point.
I`ll load up a couple today and try them and report back.

Pitchy · May 26, 2012, 09:16:34 AM

Say now that`s a nice load, i like that, mild and shot a little high at 50 yards so should be right on at 100.
My eyes are bad so that probably would of been a tight group with good vision.
With the factory ladder sight i was all over the place horizontally, after replacing with a semi-buckhorn that is better but as ya can see vertical is still off.
Thanks pard ya made my day.

Pitchy · May 27, 2012, 08:47:33 AM

Any load results using a 405 grain bullet and 4198 would be appreciated.

Pitchy · May 28, 2012, 02:00:46 PM

Shot a couple groups using the 26 grain load of 4198 and 405, not bad for my eyes, but then lowered the charge to 25 grains and not bad.
Use this load at your own risk.

Pitchy · June 08, 2012, 04:42:53 PM

hammer1 · June 24, 2012, 02:24:40 PM

Silver Rings,
Please forgive me, Im just starting out reloading for the big case blackpowder rounds. The Varget loads, the 46 gr loads, does that fill the case, or are you using the filler. Again, I dont want to screw up a really great rifle, and I can use all the help I can get. Thanks very much, sir.

Silver_Rings · June 28, 2012, 10:15:03 AM

Howdy Hammer1,

Sorry for taking so long to reply. We just built a new house and I have not been on CASCITY much. The 300 grain bullet with 46 grains of varget fills the case pretty good. I did not use a filler with that load.

Friendly reminder, these loads are NOT for original 1876s, only for reproduction 1876s. Also they have not been pressure tested so use at your own risk.

Silver Rings

leverman · July 15, 2012, 05:53:38 AM

Hi guys, been LOTs of info on the 45-60 loads in both 300 and 405 gn bullets over the last year or so, Silver Rings especialy doing a lot of testing on differant powders. Here in the UK, we do not have your ability to walk into a gunshop and buy what you want over the counter, so I have H4831, Varget, and R22 for my hunting rifles, am waiting for a variation to add a Ulberti 1876 in 45-60 to hunt deer and do some range/fun shooting with it. After all your testing guys, what have you come up with as a hunting load and a load to do silluete etc targets just for the hell of it. Are you useing a filler etc, I need 1700ft/lds muzzle energy to be deer legal, any help would be appreciated. This site has the most information on lever action rifles out there, driven by people with a passion for these great firearms, and dedicated to thier continued use, how I wish I was able to do what you guys do for a hobby, I shoot about 60 to 70 deer a year and am responsible for others to do a combined cull of around 130. My ulberti will be another rifle to add another dimension to my sport here in the UK, dry powder, tight barrels and Diana may smile at you.

leverman.

Joe Lansing · July 16, 2012, 06:07:41 PM

I am curious to see if there is any load recommended for the 45-60 which has a m.v. of 1700 f.p.s. or more (or any 1876 rifle caliber, for that matter).

JL

Joe Lansing · July 16, 2012, 06:12:29 PM

I'm sorry. I miss read. I thought it was fps, not ft. lbs. I had better get my eyes checked.

JL

leverman · July 19, 2012, 05:03:39 PM

If you look at Silver Rings loads, he got 1698 fps from some of his loads.

Roosterman · July 20, 2012, 05:20:23 PM

Quote from: Joe Lansing on July 16, 2012, 06:12:29 PM
I'm sorry. I miss read. I thought it was fps, not ft. lbs. I had better get my eyes checked.

JL

I read it the same way.

I'd think you'll have to go with a 405gr bullet, but I'm not smart enough to know how to figure foot pounds of energy.

Mike · July 21, 2012, 03:20:52 PM

There is a legal requirment in the UK for cartridge to shoot deer, the guy should stick to modern hunting rounds because he may have to prove his reloads conform to the law.
Guess work is not the way to go in this case although all deer in the uk could be kill with the 45-60 round if it were LEGAL.

leverman · July 21, 2012, 04:37:50 PM

I have a 270, a 7x57, a 243, and a 223 last one legal for our smaller deer. Several people on a site in the UK use a 44 Remington Mag for deer, this reaches the required levels to be legal in England. I can achieve the required 1700 ft/lds required by the UK law using loads posted on here. If there are people in the US using lever guns for hunting deer why shouldn't I do the same in the UK without breaking the law. leverman

hammer1 · July 28, 2012, 11:19:24 AM

Silveer Rings, I would like to thank you for your help. I tried the varget load with the 350 gr Lazercast in my 45-60, found the sweet spot, at 39.5 grs . I shot an 1 1/2 group at a hundred, I have to take my Chrony out next time,( intermittent rain showers). But the load seemed alot faster than the load I was trying with Trailboss.. Primers came out rounded near the edges. Thank you, very much Sir.

leverman · July 28, 2012, 02:37:40 PM

Ditto to Silver Rings for his load testing, should be given a post for all the work he has done, the Varget load will be what I will try out, many thanks to S.R. and previous poster. deerwarden

Silver_Rings · August 02, 2012, 09:53:03 AM

Hammer1,

Glad to help. Sounds like you found a great load for your rifle.

Silver Rings

Rowdy Fulcher · August 02, 2012, 12:36:23 PM

Silver Rings
Thanks for all the load data .We appreciate your hard work and time you've spent developing them . Keep up the good work .

Roosterman · October 16, 2012, 05:11:41 PM

Shot some Varget loads that worked well for Silver Rings . Worked well for me too. Both 300gr and 405 bullits. I GOTTA get some new sights that I can see......

Roosterman · November 08, 2012, 10:42:34 PM

Got my peeps on, what a difference. Shot a 100 yard 5 shot group @ 1 5/8" today with 35gr Varget and 405 hard cast bullet. Very pleased.