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[Stu Kettle]

The first pic of the older gent,I think is a Col.Walter Heron Taylor.He was Gen.Lee's aide de campe thru the civil war.After doing some research he was at VMI 1853,then with Lee,later in life he was a banker & hung around with Mark Twain (hence the pic of him as a scout)The earlier pics of Col W.H.Taylor that I posted look more like the older gent than the LBH survivor.Feathers

This is the description given by the auction site that offered the photo for sale:
"silver gelatin image with imprint of Palmer, Butte, Montana; circa 1900, signed in negative "W.H. Taylor, Scout." An aged Taylor stands in buckskins with his Sharp's carbine. This is M.H. Taylor, a scout with General Alfred Terry who discovered the Custer massacre and was the first to deliver the news to the Army. Penciled original biographical info on reverse - Unpublished and rare!"
http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?ItemId=7136

[Stu Kettle]

The younger man with the saber is the same picture of William O. Taylor that is in his account of the Battle that was published in the early '90s, just looked in my copy to make sure.

[shrapnel]

Of course we all know that no one lied or made up stories before 1950. So everything you see or read about before that is true. You can tell with the photography and props in those days, with pinpoint accuracy, that if there is a similarity it must be the person we want it to be. This picture is proof of that with the assembling of all of the most notable historic figures of the 19th century at Hunters Hot Springs in Montana in 1883...

[St. George]

I remember going into an antique shop years ago - and there was a large box full of old sepia-toned pictures of men and women of the turn of the century.

All were missing their frames and gutta-percha cases and albums, as those were being sold separately.

The sign on the box - 'Instant Relatives - Create Your Own Family Memories'...

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[Delmonico]

Of course we all know that no one lied or made up stories before 1950. So everything you see or read about before that is true. You can tell with the photography and props in those days, with pinpoint accuracy, that if there is a similarity it must be the person we want it to be. This picture is proof of that with the assembling of all of the most notable historic figures of the 19th century at Hunters Hot Springs in Montana in 1883...

Seen that one for sale in magazines, expected it late night on the history channel to be for sale and order now for free shipping, but wait, for the first 500 customers,,,,,,,,,,


I have a hard time with someone trying to sell something with out water tight proof, if they are not trying to sell, then I consider how good the source has been in the past, and I trust dead ones from the time more than I do live ones that were not.

One of my favorites, most of us have looked at the book, perhaps I should not embarrass the darling of PBS, since this book is the companion to one of his shows, but I smell something fishy, seems no one I've met noticed till I show them.

If someone wants to provide the exact text, feel free, I won't bother digging out the book, it's in my storage shed. 



Freed slaves, sitting on a levee waiting for a steamboat to take them to Kansas to homestead.  (Side story on Exodusters)

A bit of clean up, back to the original B&W and adjusting lighting and such for fade:



Delmonico's Caption:  "They is waiting for a boat, any boat, doubt they is going to Kansas."



More Delmonico:  "This is Grandpa, he didn't want to go to Kansas, we didn't have a strait jacket so we did the best we could."

Picture belongs to The Kansas State Historical Society, don't know if they have it wrong or our esteemed historian got it wrong.  Do know he got a Butcher one wrong and it's labeled right in the collection and has been since Butcher labled it.  Have talked with the curator of the collection on it.

[River City John]

I remember going into an antique shop years ago - and there was a large box full of old sepia-toned pictures of men and women of the turn of the century.

All were missing their frames and gutta-percha cases and albums, as those were being sold separately.

The sign on the box - 'Instant Relatives - Create Your Own Family Memories'...

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

Sounds like they were given a 'second chance'. . . 

RCJ

[JimBob]

Delmonico's Caption:  "They is waiting for a boat, any boat, doubt they is going to Kansas."



More Delmonico:  "This is Grandpa, he didn't want to go to Kansas, we didn't have a strait jacket so we did the best we could."

Picture belongs to The Kansas State Historical Society, don't know if they have it wrong or our esteemed historian got it wrong.  Do know he got a Butcher one wrong and it's labeled right in the collection and has been since Butcher labled it.  Have talked with the curator of the collection on it.
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Probably watching their house go floating down "ole Miss" headed for the Gulf of Mexico.  

[Delmonico]

This is always a fun one, so anyone got any idea of who this is?

[Texas Lawdog]

I give up. Who is it?

[Stu Kettle]

Jack Palance?

[Delmonico]

This is always a fun one, so anyone got any idea of who this is?

I give up. Who is it?

Could be Paul Newmann:

[Stu Kettle]

Could be Paul Newmann:

could be - that's what my wife guessed when I asked her last night.

[Delmonico]

could be - that's what my wife guessed when I asked her last night.

Just trying to remember what movie that is from, not Butch Cassidey and the Sundance Kid, pretty sure it's him, sure looks like him.

[Delmonico]

So what happens if we make the pictures a bit more equal:

[Stu Kettle]

Don't think its Newman, his first western was "The Left Handed Gun" in 1958 and he looked like this:

[Delmonico]

Sure kinda looks like him though, wonder who it is.

[Henry4440]

I don't remember who posted this picture first, or where,



but it made me wonder if maybe it wasn't the same guy is in this picture, only older.



I thought maybe the photographer got the name wrong on the later photo, & now that I've been schooled in picture posting I thought I'd put it up for debate among all you experts on the battle, or photos in general.

W.H. Taylor, Scout." An aged Taylor stands in buckskins with his Spencer carbine. This is W.H. Taylor, a scout with General Alfred Terry who discovered the Custer massacre and was the first to deliver the news to the Army.
http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,35818.0.html

http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?ItemId=7136

[JimBob]

Sure kinda looks like him though, wonder who it is.

I remember Charlton Heston made a western back in the 70s I think titled "The Last Hard Men" that had an actor who was one of the badguys who had facial features like that.I seem to remember that James Coburn was the baddie who kidnapped his daughter.Been years since I saw it,one of those "changing times" in the west pictures.

Edit: Looked it up and changed movie title to correct one.

[Professor Marvel]

This is always a fun one, so anyone got any idea of who this is?

Whoever this gent is, he is uncommonly well equipped, for I believe I see a pad and pencil in the breast pocket of his vest.....

yhs
prof marvel