.38 S&W components?

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River City John

November 02, 2010, 04:29:17 PM
Anyone have sources for components for reloading .38 s&w?
Even factory loaded, preferably black powder.

RCJ
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Pancho Peacemaker

#1
November 02, 2010, 05:11:56 PM
Midsouth Shooters Supply has some Magtech smokeless loads.  I bought some last spring.  They go bang every trigger pull.  I still want to find some BP loads for my older pocket pistols.


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Tascosa Joe

#2
November 02, 2010, 06:01:34 PM
RCJ:

I had to buy factory Remington loads to get the brass.  On of the case rims was either too thick or the bullet is not seated to depth.  It locked up my S&W tighter than a drum as Pancho can attest.  So much for QC at Remington.  I have reloaded some in BP but have not fired them yet.  Both of my .38 S&Ws predated 1889.  I am afraid buying factory bullets is the only way to aquire brass.

Pancho, I have a box of BP 38 S&W loaded that I will share with you next time we do pocket pistol.

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Tjackstephens

#3
November 02, 2010, 06:41:02 PM
Fellows, A few days ago someone on the SASS wire had 38 S&W brass for sale. Star Line brass carries 38 S&W brass all the time. Think it's about $75 for 500. Check their web sight out. Tj
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Dr. Bob

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November 05, 2010, 10:13:29 PM
Got some big lube (TM) bullets from Springfield Slim and loaded my Starline brass with a case full of BP!  Work just fine!
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November 06, 2010, 06:52:39 AM
On Brass...Starline is backorder only right now...and so is Midway.

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River City John

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November 06, 2010, 09:28:28 AM
Quote from: Montana Slim on November 06, 2010, 06:52:39 AM
On Brass...Starline is backorder only right now...and so is Midway.

Regards,
Slim

So I noticed. Dang!
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Tjackstephens

#7
November 06, 2010, 09:12:17 PM
RCJ, Check the SASS wire, that fellow still had some brass left, but going fast. Tj
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River City John

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November 22, 2010, 01:02:13 PM


This is the cutie that has captured my heart.

I seem to have acquired three pocket pistols in .38S&W caliber within the last six months, but this one has me thinking about creating a new persona around it, and perhaps shooting this as a main match pistol.
Books, perhaps another News Correspondent to join you in the field?

RCJ
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"He who will not look backward with reverence, will not look forward with hope." - Edmund Burke
". . .freedom is not everything or the only thing, perhaps we will put that discovery behind us and comprehend, before it's too late, that without freedom all else is nothing."- G. Warren Nutter
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Will Ketchum

#9
November 22, 2010, 03:00:19 PM
Boy I miss it already :'(.  It only holds 5 rounds doesn't it?

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Sir Charles deMouton-Black

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November 22, 2010, 03:29:59 PM
RCJ;  Nice piece!  On one of your other threads on this topic, someone suggested using cut-off .38 Special cases,  I think it would work great, at least to make some noise sooner rather than later.
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Tjackstephens

#11
November 22, 2010, 04:45:29 PM
Think you will find that a 38 S&W case and a 38 spl. case are different in dia.  Although the bullet itself is the same dia. Tj
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Sir Charles deMouton-Black

#12
November 22, 2010, 06:30:07 PM
TJack;  I know they are different.  The S&W is a tapered case, while the Special is straight.  I think that the only drawback, if it is actually detrimental, is that the case just forward of the web will bulge a bit to fit the chamber.  If it needs sizing after firing, use a 9mm Luger die to just squeeze the neck in enough to allow inside expanding to hold the bullet.

Not perfect, but it can work.
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River City John

#13
November 22, 2010, 06:34:07 PM
I've got on backorder a box of 50 .38s&w by Ten-X from Midway that will be in maybe end of January. That will give me something in BP to shoot, and the brass to reload afterwards. About decided on using same slug I already load for .38sp for convenience.
Meanwhile need to get 9mm dies.

Thinking my new persona sure would love to get a cute shoulder holster rig to carry it.

Our Posse shoots Range Detective, two pistols and a rifle. I'm thinking this in a shoulder rig and my 'big iron' on the hip will be the boss!

Also thinking I need to dress all toney, like that pimp Yuma City Kid. ;)

RCJ
"I was born by the river in a little tent, and just like the river I've been running ever since." - Sam Cooke
"He who will not look backward with reverence, will not look forward with hope." - Edmund Burke
". . .freedom is not everything or the only thing, perhaps we will put that discovery behind us and comprehend, before it's too late, that without freedom all else is nothing."- G. Warren Nutter
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River City John

#14
November 22, 2010, 06:37:59 PM
Quote from: Will Ketchum on November 22, 2010, 03:00:19 PM
Boy I miss it already :'(.  It only holds 5 rounds doesn't it?

Will Ketchum

Yes Pete. Five sweet little rounds.

You do know you have visitation rights . . .


RCJ
"I was born by the river in a little tent, and just like the river I've been running ever since." - Sam Cooke
"He who will not look backward with reverence, will not look forward with hope." - Edmund Burke
". . .freedom is not everything or the only thing, perhaps we will put that discovery behind us and comprehend, before it's too late, that without freedom all else is nothing."- G. Warren Nutter
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Books OToole

#15
November 24, 2010, 10:50:37 AM
A couple weeks ago, I shot one of my original .38 S & Ws in a match.  It only holds 5 shots, but the hammer can be safely lowered between the rims.  This is a safe acceptable method per NCOWS rules.

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Dusty Tagalon

#16
November 24, 2010, 11:39:40 AM
Here is my latest acquisition (M887 Swedish Nagant), have purchased some 7.5mm brass, wanted to wait until I got the revolver in hand to determine what bullets I need. I was able to adjust my 32/20 dies to load up a few test rounds.
Barrel length of 4.5" puts it outside of a pocket pistol, but it is a six shooter.


Brian

River City John

#17
November 24, 2010, 06:12:47 PM
Tres Cool, Brian!

I love the different look of European revolvers. Very Steam Punk.

What were the type of revolvers that Brendon Fraser used in The Mummy series of films? Great shoulder rig.

RCJ
"I was born by the river in a little tent, and just like the river I've been running ever since." - Sam Cooke
"He who will not look backward with reverence, will not look forward with hope." - Edmund Burke
". . .freedom is not everything or the only thing, perhaps we will put that discovery behind us and comprehend, before it's too late, that without freedom all else is nothing."- G. Warren Nutter
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River City John

#18
November 24, 2010, 06:17:05 PM
Books,
this double action has a built in rebounding hammer that only goes all the way down at the end of the trigger pull cycle,- once you release the trigger forward the hammer backs out to clear the face of the recoil shield on the inside surface.
I can load all five chambers and still be safe.

RCJ
"I was born by the river in a little tent, and just like the river I've been running ever since." - Sam Cooke
"He who will not look backward with reverence, will not look forward with hope." - Edmund Burke
". . .freedom is not everything or the only thing, perhaps we will put that discovery behind us and comprehend, before it's too late, that without freedom all else is nothing."- G. Warren Nutter
NCOWS #L146
GAF #275

Tjackstephens

#19
November 24, 2010, 09:43:52 PM
RCJ, I have a nickle S&W top break in 38 s&w. I have shot a lot of factory ammo and some reloads through it. Seems to be a strong gun that handles the ammo well. Tj
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