Gatling gun info?

JimBob · January 25, 2011, 11:33:36 AM

Quote from: Delmonico on January 25, 2011, 10:12:07 AM
The 1" is not a Gatling, it is a Hotchkiss, uses the same round as the single shot Hotchkisses that were used at Wounded Knee. I saw a repro of one of the Hotchkisses fire in 1996, it was impressive even with just plain lead bullets.

I think you'll find the Hotchkiss guns used at Wounded Knee were the M1875 1.65 Hotchkiss Mountain Gun.It's a very different round than the 1 in. Hotchkiss Revolving Gun fired.

At one time there was a Hotchkiss revolving gun in front of the courthouse in Lewistown,Illinois.

Delmonico · January 25, 2011, 11:47:12 AM

Thanks, I thought they were the same round.

JimBob · January 25, 2011, 12:29:14 PM

The Hotchkiss M1875 Mtn.Gun http://spanamwar.com/hotchkis165.htm There was one of these on that pawn shop show on history channel awhile back.The guy sold it to him for 30 grand,estimated value 40.

The one inch revolving guns were 1 pounders,37mm.They were made as large as 57mm.The Navy used them up to 47mm on ships as anti-torpedo boat protection.

Delmonico · January 25, 2011, 12:45:51 PM

The one I saw fired used a cut down 40mm Bofors case with the electronic primer machined out and the base of a primed 20 gauge shotgun used to set off the charge of black powder.

Dead I · January 25, 2011, 01:19:58 PM

Quote from: kflach on November 12, 2010, 04:43:48 PM
Dead I,

Navy or Air Force?

Marine Corps; during VN I flew the A4-E.

Forty Rod · January 25, 2011, 01:29:46 PM

Quote from: Pancho Peacemaker on January 25, 2011, 09:08:57 AM
At our last NCOWS SW Regional, we had a feller bring a Gatllin' for demo. I took a bunch of pictures and video of the gun in action.

Pictures: http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b231/gsonnenmd/NCOWS/10%20SW%20Regional/?albumview=slideshow

Video: http://www.youtube.com/user/panchopeacemaker?feature=mhum

Very cool. I've seen a bunch of Gatlings and even fired one one, but they all were the longer guns on filed carriages. I've never even seen one on a tripod.

Forty Rod · January 25, 2011, 01:43:09 PM

Quote from: Delmonico on January 25, 2011, 10:12:07 AM
The 1" is not a Gatling, it is a Hotchkiss, uses the same round as the single shot Hotchkisses that were used at Wounded Knee. I saw a repro of one of the Hotchkisses fire in 1996, it was impressive even with just plain lead bullets.

Sorry to disagree, Del. The ones in the movie were 1866 Gatlings (six barrels) in 1" firing the longer slugs with explosive rounds.

I have seen pics of both and the Hotchkiss (five barrels) is a horse of a different color. I have no idea what was actually used in Cuba on that day, but those were Gatlings in the movie.

I also noticed that not all of the Colt machine guns were the 1895 "potato diggers" but were a later model (1906???) that didn't have the action going on underneath the barrel.

Delmonico · January 25, 2011, 03:03:10 PM

Quote from: Forty Rod on January 25, 2011, 01:43:09 PM
Sorry to disagree, Del. The ones in the movie were 1866 Gatlings (six barrels) in 1" firing the longer slugs with explosive rounds.

I have seen pics of both and the Hotchkiss (five barrels) is a horse of a different color. I have no idea what was actually used in Cuba on that day, but those were Gatlings in the movie.

I also noticed that not all of the Colt machine guns were the 1895 "potato diggers" but were a later model (1906???) that didn't have the action going on underneath the barrel.

No yer not, but that's fine, you know I don't mind, let me get to the directors notes, I swore he said that they found one and used it, but my mind ain't what it used to be.

Forty Rod · January 25, 2011, 04:57:19 PM

Quote from: Delmonico on January 25, 2011, 03:03:10 PM
No yer not, but that's fine, you know I don't mind, let me get to the directors notes, I swore he said that they found one and used it, but my mind ain't what it used to be.

My mind was never what it used to be. I've been known to make mistakes...maybe five times total.

Hey, did you call me recently? We have two answering systems. One doesn't have a date / time stamp on it and the last message on there was from you.

Delmonico · January 25, 2011, 06:01:29 PM

Quote from: Forty Rod on January 25, 2011, 04:57:19 PM
My mind was never what it used to be. I've been known to make mistakes...maybe five times total.

Hey, did you call me recently? We have two answering systems. One doesn't have a date / time stamp on it and the last message on there was from you.

I think I did, but I don't remember.

JimBob · January 25, 2011, 06:18:07 PM

Hey Forty Rod,did you ever find a picture of the Gatling M1866 1 inch? Found a decent one showing the hopper side in Wilson's The Book of Colt Firearms in the Gatling Gun Chapter.

Forty Rod · January 25, 2011, 07:41:41 PM

I have An American Legend and The Colt Heritage, both by Wilson, but they have nothing much on gatlings in them. Actually, they appear to be identical except for the covers and Legend is a newer book with a few more pictures and details.
I guess I'm off to the library.

Danke.

JimBob · January 25, 2011, 08:09:28 PM

Page 531.

Forty Rod · January 25, 2011, 08:17:38 PM

Thanks. I'll see if I can find it.

Drayton Calhoun · February 13, 2011, 05:57:19 PM

Is this what you're looking for? I got this off of the Rock Island Auction website, sorry the pic isn't very large...

Forty Rod · February 16, 2011, 12:59:22 PM

I got enough "bits and pieces" pictures to finish the project. I still have to assemble the parts and do the final paint touch up to finish it. It's going to take a spell longer because I have a few other projects that are way ahead of it...like finishing the remodeling of the house, complete two or three "in the works" books, and such things.

Thanks to everyone for the help. I hope the finished model is worthy of your time and effort.