Old Family Photo I found

[Rube Burrows]

Now, this is not quite the era that we usually show but thought it was neat and wanted to share.

I have been researching my family history and when I went back to my home town this past weekend one of the old timers there gave me a photo he had of some of my family members. He said it was made in the 1920 or so.




In the photo L to R

Thomas Nathan Wheeler; he was my great great grandfather. His own father served in Company D of the 26 Alabama Infantry and was believed to have been KIA.

Myrt Wheeler; son of Thomas Nathan Wheeler

Bailey Woods; married into the family

Hezzie Wheeler; son of Thomas Nathan Wheeler

William Chester Wheeler; son of Thomas Nathan Wheeler and my grandfather (My dads father)

Well hope you enjoy. Feel free to help me identify the guns in the picture.

I was told by the man that he has two of the guns in his collection and said that next time I came up he would try to let me see them.

[Dr. Bob]

Cool!  Glad you found it!! 

[Forty Rod]

Pump gun in the middle looks like a Model 10 Remington.

[Kent Shootwell]

Second from the right apears to be a Remington model 24 auto loading 22 rifle.

[Dead I]

Pump gun in the middle looks like a Model 10 Remington.

I'm thinking the pump is a Model 12 Winchester.  I think a Model 10 Remington looked like a Browning Auto 5 and used the same patient, but the parts don't interchange.  Remington made that gun before Browning did.  I think they made it from 1905 (not sure) until 1948 (sure). 

Yep, the rifle send from right is the Remington, also a Browning patient and it became the famous little Browning auto. Interarms makes it today. 

[Rube Burrows]

Thanks for the help on some of the guns. Its been pretty fun doing my family history. The elders in the town, some of which are related have been a big help and I was super happy to have this picture presented to me.

[Wild Billy Potts]

Second from the right apears to be a Remington model 24 auto loading 22 rifle.

I'll second this. I have my Grandfathers first year production (1925) example just like it.

The pump shotgun does vaguely resemble the Remington M10

[Kent Shootwell]

I'd agree with a model 12 for the pump gun. The Remington model 10 is a bottom eject with no side port.

[Wild Billy Potts]

I'd agree with a model 12 for the pump gun. The Remington model 10 is a bottom eject with no side port.

Thanks for pointing that out. That little detail escaped my attention when I dug up the pictures last night.

[GunClick Rick]

There has to be a still there somewhere Got my family in the new local farm museum here,pretty cool experience
My grandfather at work at Stone Corral School just below where they shot John Sontag


Look magazine interviewed my grandparents in the 50s,i am pointing at my mother at 16 years of age with her mom.

[Rube Burrows]

Nice Rick.

There was prob. a still somewhere nearby. There is still a few old parts in the woods up there where the old stills were.

[GunClick Rick]

Mighty mighty pleasin
pappy's corn squeezins


I knew it!

[Rube Burrows]

Mighty mighty pleasin
pappy's corn squeezins


I knew it!

ewwwww White Lightening

[GunClick Rick]

They was lookin tryin to book him
but my pappy kept a cookin~~

[rebsr52339]

Rick and Rube---That is too neat. We must preserve our heritage now as we are loosing it at a rapid pace.  My family came over to N.A. in 1699 and settled in Three Rivers Canada. I have been researching this ever since. It is just fascinating. Rick, you still amaze me. Best to you.

Dick

[Dead I]

Pump gun in the middle looks like a Model 10 Remington.

The gun in the middle is a takedown.  Did they make the Model 10 in a takedown?  I don't know much about the Remington model 10, but it looks like a model 12 Winchester too. It is a takedown.   

[Rube Burrows]

The gun in the middle is a takedown.  Did they make the Model 10 in a takedown?  I don't know much about the Remington model 10, but it looks like a model 12 Winchester too. It is a takedown.   

Ok, I found out the pump shotgun is a Winchester Model 12. I actually got to see and handle the exact gun in the picture when I went back to my hometown for thanksgiving.

We even took a few pics with some of the descendants of the men in the original pic.

Here are our pics. Now, it was spur of the moment but I think they turned out okay. Comments welcome.



The guy in his Sunday clothes is holding the original Model 12 from the original pic. Its kind of fitting that he be dressed up because in the original pic Bailey Woods (holding the model 12) was sorta dressed up compared to the others too.

Here is another



This is My father, my younger brother and of course myself.





and me...




All of the pics including the original pic was taken on the same land. Its my father's land in Lamar County, Alabama which happened to be part of Rube Burrows old spread.


Comments welcome.

[Dr. Bob]

Them bibs yer wearin are awful clean!   

[Rube Burrows]

Them bibs yer wearin are awful clean!   

I knew someone was going to say that. You are correct. Only a few washes on them and no hard uses. Nothing like the wear and tear of the men in the old pic for sure. I am sure theirs were used much harder and even washed harder. 

[Delmonico]

I'm thinking the pump is a Model 12 Winchester.  I think a Model 10 Remington looked like a Browning Auto 5 and used the same patient, but the parts don't interchange.  Remington made that gun before Browning did.  I think they made it from 1905 (not sure) until 1948 (sure). 

You are thinking of the Remmy 11 not the 10.

I checked wiki and in this case is pretty spot on:

John Browning presented his design (which he called his best achievement) to Winchester, where he had sold most of his previous designs. When Winchester refused his terms, Browning went to Remington. Tragically, the president of Remington died of a heart attack as Browning waited to offer them the gun. This forced Browning to look overseas to produce the shotgun. It was manufactured by FN (a company that had already produced Browning-designed pistols) starting in 1902. Browning would later license Remington to produce it as their Model 11 and Sportsmen (it was also built under license by Savage as their model 720, Franchi as their AL-48, in Italy by Breda, and in Russia by TOZ). The Model 11 was the first auto-loading shotgun made in the USA. Production in Belgium continued until the start of World War II, when Browning-marked examples were produced by Remington Arms in the United States. Unlike the Remington Model 11, the Remington-produced Browning shotguns had magazine cutoffs. Some 850,000 Remington Model 11 shotguns were produced before production ended in 1947. In 1952, production returned to FN, where it continued to be produced until the end. However, the majority of production moved to Japan in 1975. Finally, in 1998, manufacture of A-5s ceased except for a few commemorative models created at FN in 1999. By that time, it was well established as the second-best-selling auto-loading shotgun in U.S. history, after the Remington 1100.