Thanks Dick, Big Lube™ Has Sales Appeal ...

Started by john boy, August 24, 2010, 11:12:36 PM

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john boy

... Put all 6 of my Big Lube™ molds up for sale at 1:00 yesterday and 5 were sold by 9:00PM.  The 45 Colts went like hot cakes - the 45-70's even the original Twin Lube were the next to go in mass.  One fella wanted all 3, including Fred Leeth's MK III.  But he was too late for the 400gr and took the other two.
OK, why did I sell them?
*  Have found that the 454190 shoots as well as the PRS for CAS and is a more accurate bullet in the 300yd range
*  Have about 10# cast of the J/P's plus 200 rounds loaded for the Schofields in my pair of R&D NMA.  If I need more - Hello Slim!
*  You folks know I like to shoot long distance and have determined that the decades old proven bullets in a 45-70 and 45-90 are more accurate out to 1000 yds - even though my best 600yd ever was with the original Twin Groove, loaded with H777 in my 1st BPCR, the Buffalo Classic
*  Have determined the old Ideal 375166 and 375300 bullets in the 38-55 are very accurate out to 500 meters
So, now my inventory is down to 43 moulds and I'm a few bucks richer

The only Big Lube™ mould that hasn't been sold yet is the 38-55.  Seems there are not that many 38-55 shooters out there compared to the 45-70.  If anyone is interested in the mould, it's over at SASS and The Open Range on the classifieds

So, my long legacy starting way back on the Frontier Spot and conversing with Dick by email about the various bullets has come to an end.
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Springfield Slim

If the Big Lubes were the ONLY bullets that worked everybody  but DD would go out of businees, so obviously that isn't true. I use the 454190 in my 45ACP for Wild bunch matches myself. Not sure why anybody would want to shoot a 45 Colt 300 yards, though. I tried the Lyman molds you mentioned but they didn't cast large enough for my 38-55 Buffalo Classic. The DD mould works fine, though. It's all about what works in your gun.
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Dick Dastardly

Thanks John Boy, I think. .

The Big Lube®LLC name is respected all around the Earth.  It's become recognized for superb black powder performance and it's become the standard by which others are measured.  Now, I wish I could take credit for creating the bullets but I can't.  The real recognition goes to pards like Pigeon Roost Slim, Driftwood Johnson and Wild Bill Peterson, Snakebite, Mav Dutchman, Springfield Slim and others.  Thanks guys.

Big Lube®LLC products continue to sell briskly all around the planet even though we are in an economic hard time.  Proof of their viability and value. I'm happy you were able to easily market your good used Big Lube®LLC molds.  It speaks well for their name and their value.

Keep on smokin'.

DD-DLoS
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Noz


john boy

QuoteNot sure why anybody would want to shoot a 45 Colt 300 yards, though. I tried the Lyman molds you mentioned but they didn't cast large enough for my 38-55 Buffalo Classic.
Slim, let me respond:
1.  Our club holds Lever Action Pistol Caliber matches ... 50/100/200 and 100/200/300.  The 454190 with mid range data load makes the trip nicely using nitro based powder.  The bullet I shoot is the original square lube groove that was used back in the 1800's.  It is not the tapered groove that Lyman sells.  The other 45 Colt bullet that shoots well, even out to 500 meters is the Magnus CASULL 300gr- FPBB using both gunpowder and smokeless
2.  As for the 38-55 bullets, I presume you bought the remake of the out of production Ideal 375166 that I initiated the group buy for.  The mould is not sold by Lyman and hasn't been sold by Lyman since the mid 1970's when they bought out Ideal and destroyed all the Ideal schematics.  It is only sold by Lou Sellman, a Lyman retailer in Pittsburgh, PA who owns the cherry that we had made using Lyman blocks.  If you didn't order this mould from him, you are confusing the 375166 with the Lyman 378674 bullet.  You might want to buy the 375166 mould.  It casts at 381 in 1:10 and 1:20, plus it shoots ...
http://www.shilohrifle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13911
3.  As for the Ideal 375300, interesting that you say you have shot it.  Why?  Because the mould has been out for production for over 40 years and there are only 2 known moulds in collector's hands in the USofA.  One collector lent me his and I cast 25# of bullets from it in 1:20 and 1:30.  If you have this mould and ever desire to sell it - Let Me Know!

Dick, WOW!  I find your definition of Big Lube®LLC name to be really over exaggerated and not factual, including it's become the standard by which others are measured.  Granted, only in the Cowboy Community, the acronym Big Lube is well known for the 38's and 45's - only for it's lube capacity.  As for the remaining, non Cowboy BP community I have never read or heard of any Big Lube bullet ever being owned, used or listed in the many match events ... Internationally or US.  I presume you do know, there are thousands more BP shooters around the world that have never shot Cowboy   ;)

BTW, what are the 'by which others are measured'?
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Real popular over here, go to a cowboy shoot only 2-3 will be using cap and ball pistols, but 2/3 of them will have a Tower of Power and I ain't talking prayer meetings. Those new Big Lube moulds are pure luxury! Tem[ted to sell my Mav Dutchman and 45/70 390Gn Big Lube original style moulds and upgrade to new ones.
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Dick Dastardly

Howdy Four Fingers of Death,

You hang on to those old molds.  Yes, the new ones have improvements, but a good mold that's working right is a keeper.

Ho JB,  You said:
"Dick, WOW!   I presume you do know, there are thousands more BP shooters around the world that have never shot Cowboy"

Let's see, this is CAS City in the Darksiders Den.  That's who I was posting to.  Darksiders Den is not about "nitro" powders & the "CAS" in CAS City stands for Cowboy Action Shooting.  Now, as to the shooters of the Holy Black that haven't shot Cowboy Action yet, they have a treat coming.  When they do, they'll learn about the success of Big Lube soon enough.

DD-DLoS
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Purveyor of Big Lube supplies

Springfield Slim

I don't shoot nitro based powder, so I have no use for 1/10 or 1/20 based alloys. And as you know, the softer alloys tend to cast smaller as there is none to little antimony in them, thus the small bullets from the Lyman/Ideal moulds. And I may be wrong on the numbers, most of my 38-55 bullet casting has been limited to moulds attached to antique tong tools. I was just going by the pictures on my Lyman mould chart. And I found my DD/LEE 245 grain 38-55 bullet mould cast bullets that work fine for my Buffalo Classic and my converted Winchester 94, so I stopped looking. Not really much of a long range shooter anyways, so I am not an expert on the subject like you are.
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Blackpowder Burn

One has to wonder what brought on the cynical and unwarranted attack on Dick from out of nowhere.  His products work extremely well for the purposes advertised and he is an ethical vendor.  So what's the problem?
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Noz

Quote from: Aggie Desperado on August 27, 2010, 11:03:36 PM
One has to wonder what brought on the cynical and unwarranted attack on Dick from out of nowhere.  His products work extremely well for the purposes advertised and he is an ethical vendor.  So what's the problem?

+1  Maybe we need to consider the source?

Cuts Crooked

Ease up there Pardners! John Boy is talking about the kinda shootin he does, you fellers 'r talking bout the kinda shootin y'all do.

DD provides one hellofa CAS product that we all know is fanfreakintasic fer wat it's made fer! At the same time John Boy can be a virtual fount of information regarding old gunz 'n projectiles.....differant strokes for differant folks 'n all that.
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john boy

To close the loop
QuoteSo, my long legacy starting way back on the Frontier Spot and conversing with Dick by email about the various bullets has come to an end.
I sold the last remaining 38-55 mold last night of the 6 moulds in total
I did own 7 Big Lube moulds, but sent a 45-70 back to Pat @ Lee Precision for replacement because the cavity was in such bad condition, there was no way I could fix it.  He 'lost' it

For the curious, that now leaves me with comparable Big Lube caliber moulds:
10 ... 38-55
03 ... 45's, including the original Maxi bullet
19 ... 45-70
Regards
SHOTS Master John Boy

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Blackpowder Burn

I'm still confused about the point of this entire posting.  ???

Oh well, it's not important in the great scheme of things.  I've got more Big Lubes to buy in the future for CAS use.  I'm planning on a set of 32-20's next.
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