Man With No Name Conversion

Started by Harley Starr, April 22, 2010, 11:58:58 PM

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Abilene

Justician, the first batch of MWNN conversions had no rear sight, and folks who bought them said they liked them fine that way.  Since you are looking down the flat top of the barrel, you can still get a pretty good sight picture.  Oh and by the way, folks in the know suggest each barrel having its own wedge, so you may need to get an extra wedge as well.  Good luck.
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Justician

Thanks Abilene, I do appreciate it.

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Harley Starr

Quote from: Abilene on March 19, 2011, 04:36:39 PM
Justician, the first batch of MWNN conversions had no rear sight, and folks who bought them said they liked them fine that way.  Since you are looking down the flat top of the barrel, you can still get a pretty good sight picture.  Oh and by the way, folks in the know suggest each barrel having its own wedge, so you may need to get an extra wedge as well.  Good luck.

Having it's own wedge?  ???
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My only complaint about my MNN is that it came with 2 piece white pearl grips.
I just have to get used to it looking like a "pimp gun", or fit some poly ivory 1 piece
grips to it.
No, it's NOT historically accurate, but I can feed it with cartridges...I BIG plus!

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Quote from: Abilene on March 18, 2011, 09:18:39 PM
Yes, a '72 OT barrel will fit on the R-M, and an R-M barrel will fit on a '72 OT.  That is the '51 R-M, I mean.  (some fitting required, of course). The '60 R-M is also made in .38 but I'm not sure if a '60 R-M barrel will fit on the OT or not.  If ejecting brass is your only concern, you know that the MWNN has a two-piece rammer that easily comes apart to provide a brass ejector tool.  Also, if you put a '51 R-M barrel on the OT frame, you will have no rear sight (which may be fine with you), and you will have what looks a lot like a '51 R-M.  In that case you could save a lot of money by just buying the R-M, and you can get an aftermarket snake installed on the grip if you wish.

Update: upon re-reading your post, I'm thinking you already have a '72 OT.  So yeah, you could add the '51 barrel to it if you wished (I know a guy who did that - looked cool) but you would have no rear sight unless you dovetail one in.

Hmmm......A couple of years ago (?) I picked up two 51 Navy barrels from Cimarron.  They were marked as BP, but the bores are 38spl.  They are both dovetailed for a rear sight.  I have a pair of OT that I was going to fit them to, but was not able to come up with the needed lever and ram assembly.  Does Cimarron sell the MWNN assembly?
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Abilene

Quote from: Grizzly Adams on May 04, 2011, 10:12:09 PM
Hmmm......A couple of years ago (?) I picked up two 51 Navy barrels from Cimarron.  They were marked as BP, but the bores are 38spl.  They are both dovetailed for a rear sight.  I have a pair of OT that I was going to fit them to, but was not able to come up with the needed lever and ram assembly.  Does Cimarron sell the MWNN assembly?

No they don't.  Like you said, you just need to get the rammer assembly to add to your barrels.  Last year when I looked, Cimarron was out of the '51 rammer parts, not sure about now.  Maybe VTI?  Cimarron did have the small rear sight available.
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Pettifogger

Abilene, do you know the dovetail size on that rear sight?

Abilene

Sorry, I don't.  It's pretty small.  Maybe Grizz can measure his.  BTW, they do have some of those rear sights in stock.
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Capt Billy

Has anyone noticed that the loading lever doesn't match up to the chambers on the cylinder? Or is mine (from Cimarron) just a mutant?
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Fingers McGee

Quote from: Capt Billy on May 23, 2011, 04:09:27 AM
Has anyone noticed that the loading lever doesn't match up to the chambers on the cylinder? Or is mine (from Cimarron) just a mutant?

If yours is a mutant; then so are mine.  Rammer will not go into the cylinder.
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Capt Billy

Here's a picture of MY mutant that Fingers and I own.
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Reverend P. Babcock Chase

Howdy MWNNC & Mutant Owners,

The reason the the rammer won't go into the chamber may be that it was designed to ram a ball that had a much bigger diameter than the .38 chamber mouth.

I'm just sayin'...

Reverend Chase

Capt Billy

Nice try Reverend, but (unless you have one of the newer ones) the loading lever is purely cosmetic...
the loading lever hits off centre BETWEEN chambers...really a shocker what with the cost of it.
(the newer models have a loading lever that unscrews halfway so it can be used as a poker to aid in ejecting sticky shells.)
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Quote from: Reverend P. Babcock Chase on May 24, 2011, 10:19:36 PM
Howdy MWNNC & Mutant Owners,

The reason the the rammer won't go into the chamber may be that it was designed to ram a ball that had a much bigger diameter than the .38 chamber mouth.

I'm just sayin'...

Reverend Chase

That's kinda what I thought when I looked at them.  The rammer doesnt miss going in by much.  More than likely the difference between .357 and .375
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Justician

Isn't that a good thing? If you are using the pick from the front of the rammer, the rear will fall against the cylinder. Since it is larger, it will not go in a hole and jamb as you turn the cylinder to eject other cartridges.

Justician

Capt Billy

I guess it WILL be helpful to pull the barrel off with.
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Willie Dixon

Not to put a damper on things, I love this firearm myself, both with the snake and without, but:

from the looks of it, isn't it just an early-model 38lc Navy Open Top with a 51 navy barrel?  If it is, that's given me all sorts of bad ideas for fun! ;D
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Harley Starr

Are these guns smooth out of the box?
A work in progress.

Pettifogger

Quote from: Harley Starr on February 03, 2012, 03:47:51 PM
Are these guns smooth out of the box?

What is "smooth" is entirely subjective.  They work out of the box, but virtually every out-of-the=box cowboy gun will benefit from an action job.

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