Another Remmie in my collection.

[delmar]

I was at a gun show Saturday and picked up an old brass frame 1858 for $75

It looks pretty rough on the outside but the bore looks good and it seems to lock in right, at the full cock position at least. One slight problem that I am having is that, at half cock, the bolt pops up to early, just before it locks into half cock. Unless I cock it very very gently, in which case I can get it to lock into half cock without the bolt coming up.
I cant find a makers mark, but I am pretty sure it is not Uberti, Pietta, or Euroarms.

This pistol has a pretty unique trigger bolt spring, that I though somebody here might recognize. anyone seen something like this before?





What do you think? Original part, or aftermarket? I was thinking if it was original it might give a clue as to the maker of the gun

[Doc O]

Looks home made to me.

Doc

[Flint]

The spring is not original.  The maker should be stamped on the gun somewhere...  Pietta is usually on the right side of the barrel.  I don't think Uberti ever made a brass framed Remington.  Don't know where Euroarms put their name.

Try bending the wing of the bolt outward a bit, it should be open a bit more than parallel.  (The wing that rides the hammer's cam).  If it rides the hammer side a bit harder it won't fall off as soon.  Also look at the hammer's cam and see if it looks worn or rounded at the edge.  Replace the spring with one from VTIgunparts.  Hopefully somewhere on the gun will be a name or logo. You could pull the triggerguard from some of your other Remingtons and check the springs for fit in the new one.  Helpful if you have a few different makes.  Ask Lisa at VTI if the springs are different between the makers.  Get the longest one, or the one that fits best from your collection.  Buy spares.

[Montana Slim]

Definitetely a "custom" spring setup there 

Get a strong light & some magnification on the front face of the cylinder. Pietta marked a lot of their guns on that face. It would be a diamond shape with (I believe) FAP inset the diamond. Not sure about other makers.

Regards,
Slim

[delmar]

The spring is not original.  The maker should be stamped on the gun somewhere...  Pietta is usually on the right side of the barrel.  I don't think Uberti ever made a brass framed Remington.  Don't know where Euroarms put their name.

I know what the Pietta and Uberti emblems look like and they don't seem to be on the pistol. I Have a Euroarms  1958 and the dimensions are not quite the same. 

Try bending the wing of the bolt outward a bit, it should be open a bit more than parallel.  (The wing that rides the hammer's cam).  If it rides the hammer side a bit harder it won't fall off as soon.  Also look at the hammer's cam and see if it looks worn or rounded at the edge.  Replace the spring with one from VTIgunparts.  Hopefully somewhere on the gun will be a name or logo. You could pull the triggerguard from some of your other Remingtons and check the springs for fit in the new one.  Helpful if you have a few different makes.  Ask Lisa at VTI if the springs are different between the makers.  Get the longest one, or the one that fits best from your collection.  Buy spares.

I think I'm going  to try bending the wings outward before I do anything else. If that solves the issue, there may not be a reason to replace that spring right away.

[Wolfgang]

My Armi San Marco has a little     ASM  on the underside of the barrel.   Nothing else but the proof marks.  What do the proof marks on it date it's manufactur ?    Are there Italian proof marks on it ?   There was a Spanish manufacture ( I forget the name ) . . but don't know if they made and brass framed ones. 

[drjldavis]

The spring is definately a home made replacement.  It there are no markings at all on the revolver then my guess would be that it is a kit gun.  Many of these Kits have no marks of any kind and some that did the markings were removed by the builder of the kit.

[delmar]

The spring is definately a home made replacement.  It there are no markings at all on the revolver then my guess would be that it is a kit gun.  Many of these Kits have no marks of any kind and some that did the markings were removed by the builder of the kit.

There are some markings, but I haven't been able to ID them so far.

[Rebel Dave]

Gelmar
If that is indeed an XX8 on it. It was made in 1972, the rest I don't know.

Rebel Dave

[The Pathfinder]

Santa Barbara was the spanish outfit that made Remmies I think. The markings on the butt make me think of F.I.E but it looks more like E.I.E from what I can see. I'll look for my old 1972 Dixie Gun Works catalog and see if I can dig anything else up.

[Danny Bear Claw]

Obviously Italian made...  and $75 seems like a good price to me, in spite of the few small problems with it.