S&W model 10 legal???

Started by bear tooth billy, March 14, 2010, 08:27:19 AM

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bear tooth billy

My son in law is going through his parents estate and he asked me to clean up some guns.
One that caught my eye was a Smith model 10-7 , it has fixed sights, 3 7/8 barrel,wood
grips. i was looking on the internet about it and the model 10 came out in 1899 with
the BP 38 special round. It's not on the approvrd or disapproved list, but is very similar
to the Colt police (which is approved). I'm wondering if this would be NCOWS legal

                 Thanks BTB
Born 110 years too late

St. George

Since that version came about 'after' 1957, and the 10-7 in 1977, and since it bears zero resemblence to the early one, other than being a revolver - that's stretching the bounds of believability, I'd say.

The Model 10 lineage traces to the Model 1905.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

"It Wasn't Cowboys and Ponies - It Was Horses and Men.
It Wasn't Schoolboys and Ladies - It Was Cowtowns and Sin..."

Tjackstephens

BTB, The Smith and Wesson Model 10 is one of the finest double action revolvers ever made(my thoughts). Every US Miltary and most US police Dept. carried it for years and years. When police went to semi's you could pick them up for a song. Wish I still could, it was the first revolver I ever owned. Still have one. Bill Jorden worked with Smith and Wesson to develope the Model 19. He wanted a 357 with the same frame that the Model 10 had (K frame), not so large as the 357 Model 27 and 28 (N frame). Clean that gun up and take care of it. Tj
Texas Jack Stephens:   NRA, NCOWS #2312,  SASS # 12303, Hiram's Ranger #22,  GAF #641, USFA-CSS # 185, BOSS# 174,  Hartford Lodge 675, Johnson County Rangers,  Green River Gunslingers, Col. Bishop's Renegades, Kentucky Col.

Texas Lawdog

I've got a Model 1899 Smith revolver in 32/20 cal. It's a shade smaller than a Model 10 and it has a round butt like the Chief's Special.
SASS#47185  RO I   ROII       NCOWS#2244  NCOWS Life #186  BOLD#393 GAF#318 SCORRS#1 SBSS#1485  WASA#666  RATS#111  BOSS#155  Storm#241 Henry 1860#92 W3G#1000  Warthog AZSA #28  American Plainsmen Society #69  Masonic Cowboy Shootist  Hiram's Rangers#18  FOP  Lt. Col  Grand Army of The Frontier, Life Member CAF
   Col.  CAF  NRA  TSRA   BOA  Dooley Gang  BOPP  ROWSS  Scarlet Mask Vigilance Society Great Lakes Freight and Mining Company  Cow Cracker Cavalry   Berger Sharpshooters "I had no Irons in the Fire". "Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie"?

Dusty Tagalon

Quick spot for a legal S&W hand ejector, no shroud for ejector rod.

Dusty

Tjackstephens

Yes, the gun that came out in 1899 was the Smith&Wesson hand ejector. Fine 38 and revolver. The model 10 followed it. Later the model 36 (five shot Chief's special). Then the model 27 N frame 357. Then Bill Jordan worked with S&W to develope the K frame model 19 .357. The handejector changed every thing for S&W. Wasn't long till you had a 45 colt in the hand ejector and no more S&W top break revolvers.   Smith and Wesson sure makes a GREAT revolver. Tj
Texas Jack Stephens:   NRA, NCOWS #2312,  SASS # 12303, Hiram's Ranger #22,  GAF #641, USFA-CSS # 185, BOSS# 174,  Hartford Lodge 675, Johnson County Rangers,  Green River Gunslingers, Col. Bishop's Renegades, Kentucky Col.

Texas Lawdog

Bro. TJ, I will agree with you on the Smiths. I have carried most every model that they made at one time or other as a Leo. I never cared for their semi-autos, I never liked the second shot. I carried the original Model 39 in 1970 and a 469 and 669 in the early 80s.
SASS#47185  RO I   ROII       NCOWS#2244  NCOWS Life #186  BOLD#393 GAF#318 SCORRS#1 SBSS#1485  WASA#666  RATS#111  BOSS#155  Storm#241 Henry 1860#92 W3G#1000  Warthog AZSA #28  American Plainsmen Society #69  Masonic Cowboy Shootist  Hiram's Rangers#18  FOP  Lt. Col  Grand Army of The Frontier, Life Member CAF
   Col.  CAF  NRA  TSRA   BOA  Dooley Gang  BOPP  ROWSS  Scarlet Mask Vigilance Society Great Lakes Freight and Mining Company  Cow Cracker Cavalry   Berger Sharpshooters "I had no Irons in the Fire". "Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie"?

O.T. Buchannan

I have a S&W Military & Police Revolver made in 1903....with 6 1/2 inch barrel and round butt.  It's tight as a bank vault, and it's a GREAT shooter!  On the side of the barrel, it's stamped '.38 S&W Special and .38 Colt U.S. Service Round' (or something like that...:)).

My first duty gun was a S&W Military & Police in .38 Special with a 6 inch barrel and square butt....made in the 1920s....
"If the grass is greener on the other side, water your OWN lawn."

Tjackstephens

O.T., The first handgun I ever owned was a  model 10 in 38 spl. four inch barrel.  On that barrel was written U. S. Property. That's the handgun I learned how to shoot with. I still have a model 10, but not that one. Just wonder how many of those guns were made? Fine weapon. Tj 
Texas Jack Stephens:   NRA, NCOWS #2312,  SASS # 12303, Hiram's Ranger #22,  GAF #641, USFA-CSS # 185, BOSS# 174,  Hartford Lodge 675, Johnson County Rangers,  Green River Gunslingers, Col. Bishop's Renegades, Kentucky Col.

Texas Lawdog

I did some fast research on my 32/20 Smith. It is a First Model Hand Ejector. It has a 4 inch barrel and a 4 digit serial number under 5200.
SASS#47185  RO I   ROII       NCOWS#2244  NCOWS Life #186  BOLD#393 GAF#318 SCORRS#1 SBSS#1485  WASA#666  RATS#111  BOSS#155  Storm#241 Henry 1860#92 W3G#1000  Warthog AZSA #28  American Plainsmen Society #69  Masonic Cowboy Shootist  Hiram's Rangers#18  FOP  Lt. Col  Grand Army of The Frontier, Life Member CAF
   Col.  CAF  NRA  TSRA   BOA  Dooley Gang  BOPP  ROWSS  Scarlet Mask Vigilance Society Great Lakes Freight and Mining Company  Cow Cracker Cavalry   Berger Sharpshooters "I had no Irons in the Fire". "Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie"?

Dusty Tagalon

My carry gun is a J-Frame Smith 432PD.

Dusty

Texas Lawdog

I either carry a Glock 26 or 27 for a semi-auto and a 642 Smith for a revolver.
SASS#47185  RO I   ROII       NCOWS#2244  NCOWS Life #186  BOLD#393 GAF#318 SCORRS#1 SBSS#1485  WASA#666  RATS#111  BOSS#155  Storm#241 Henry 1860#92 W3G#1000  Warthog AZSA #28  American Plainsmen Society #69  Masonic Cowboy Shootist  Hiram's Rangers#18  FOP  Lt. Col  Grand Army of The Frontier, Life Member CAF
   Col.  CAF  NRA  TSRA   BOA  Dooley Gang  BOPP  ROWSS  Scarlet Mask Vigilance Society Great Lakes Freight and Mining Company  Cow Cracker Cavalry   Berger Sharpshooters "I had no Irons in the Fire". "Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie"?

St. George

Seems that we're veering away from the initial question.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!
"It Wasn't Cowboys and Ponies - It Was Horses and Men.
It Wasn't Schoolboys and Ladies - It Was Cowtowns and Sin..."

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

I have a VICTORY model S&W in .38-200 (.38 S&W)  great shooter, and I can heat up the loads for it.  I had a .357 Mag, K frame with 4 inch barrel, but I traded it off, Can't remember what for or why!
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Tjackstephens

St. George, You are correct my friend. That's just what happeneds when you get to talking about S&W revolvers. Tj ;D
Texas Jack Stephens:   NRA, NCOWS #2312,  SASS # 12303, Hiram's Ranger #22,  GAF #641, USFA-CSS # 185, BOSS# 174,  Hartford Lodge 675, Johnson County Rangers,  Green River Gunslingers, Col. Bishop's Renegades, Kentucky Col.

Dr. Bob

Bro. Lawdog,

According to Flayderman SN were from 1 to 5,311 and were made from 1899 to 1902.
Regards, Doc
Dr. Bob Butcher,
NCOWS 2420, Senator
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GAF 405,
NRA Life,
KGC 8.
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Texas Lawdog

With that, mine should be a 1901 or 1902.
SASS#47185  RO I   ROII       NCOWS#2244  NCOWS Life #186  BOLD#393 GAF#318 SCORRS#1 SBSS#1485  WASA#666  RATS#111  BOSS#155  Storm#241 Henry 1860#92 W3G#1000  Warthog AZSA #28  American Plainsmen Society #69  Masonic Cowboy Shootist  Hiram's Rangers#18  FOP  Lt. Col  Grand Army of The Frontier, Life Member CAF
   Col.  CAF  NRA  TSRA   BOA  Dooley Gang  BOPP  ROWSS  Scarlet Mask Vigilance Society Great Lakes Freight and Mining Company  Cow Cracker Cavalry   Berger Sharpshooters "I had no Irons in the Fire". "Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie"?

Dr. Bob

Regards, Doc
Dr. Bob Butcher,
NCOWS 2420, Senator
HR 4
GAF 405,
NRA Life,
KGC 8.
Warthog
Motto: Clean mind  -  Clean body,   Take your pick

Tjackstephens

Dr. Bob, I have a 1899 in 38 spl. Really in good condition. Hope you all have a good get together in KC. I will be on the road to VA my sister's husband died of cancer and we will be there. Tj
Texas Jack Stephens:   NRA, NCOWS #2312,  SASS # 12303, Hiram's Ranger #22,  GAF #641, USFA-CSS # 185, BOSS# 174,  Hartford Lodge 675, Johnson County Rangers,  Green River Gunslingers, Col. Bishop's Renegades, Kentucky Col.

Dr. Bob

Tj,

Sorry to hear that.  Your sister, her family and you will be in my prayers.
Regards, Doc
Dr. Bob Butcher,
NCOWS 2420, Senator
HR 4
GAF 405,
NRA Life,
KGC 8.
Warthog
Motto: Clean mind  -  Clean body,   Take your pick

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