Schofield Holsters

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Perhaps the Cheyenne holster is the ticket ...

One of my problems is that Schofields are so rare that there may be two or three pair at a meet ... a couple of Russians etc.

There was one guy who had a pair of the 5" barrels in Cheyenne style holsters, but the barrel length of his was a non-issue.

I do not want to cut the barrels, which is the obvious solution

But I think that the goal would be to get the Schofields to sit deeper in the holsters ... and if the Schofields could end up with the tips of the grips at the same level as the top of the belts, Then the Cheyenne holsters would do the trick ... and since thse Schofileds weren't even issued until 1875, I could be PC with a Cheyenne Rig ...

What do you guys think

P.S. The holsters I have just happend to fit a set of Ruger Old Armys that I have ... in fact, the the Old Armys better than the Schofields.

[Jubel]

Cousin I am having a Hukleberry rig built for my Schofield by Roger Carl, I've used the Huckleberry rig with most of my longer barrel Colts and it works beautifully. It's a cross draw but not off the belt and much more comfortable. http://www.gunleatherandmore.com/  You might want to give him a call. I have a 3.5" Schofield but the Huckleberry rigs can be designed to handle upto an 8" barrel.

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Jubel,

The post that I was writing just dissapeared, so I will start all over ...

That sounds like a nice rig and I believe it would work for my 7.5" barrels ... the only problem being that the local SASS club does not allow any shoulder holsters.

I think I am down to some kind of slightly (1 1/2-2" drop) Cheyenne style holster ... I'm still cogitatiting on a soulution before I commit another $400-$600 into holsters ....

I kinda like this one by will Ghormely, but dropped about the heighth of the belt width ....

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[Montana Slim]

Have you considered making your own holsters?......I read a number of magazine articles years ago & have used those tips to make a number of holsters that custom-fit my revolvers. I'm not a pro, but they turn out decent in looks and use....I don't bother with lots of special tools, border-stamping, tooling etc, but a few basic stamps can be had for a few extra $$.

I'm partial to slim-jims myself.

Pleanty of ideas from looking at the internet & books, including Packing Iron.

Regards,
Slim

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Montana Slim,

The holsters that Will Ghormley made for me are Slim Jims designed for a Schofield ... they are the ones that are shown with my  Ruger Old Armys above .... very nice holsters, but ride so high that getting thos 7 1/2" barrels out in a hurry is a real challenge ... I mentioned before that from my waist to my armpit is 8 1/2", but the length  of the pistol is 13 1/2".

So I am thinking a lowered Cheyenne style holster would just do the trick ... and not tremendously lowered, just the 1 1/2' of the belt to where the upper tip of the grip is about the height of the belt top.

Below is a pic showin just how high those Slim Jims ride:

[Dr. Bob]

How about adding 2 vertebrae to your back?? 

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Dr Bob...

That sounds exactly like what I need ... I might even get my ex back ... LOL

Do you know anyone wo does that 'slick kit'?

*VBS*

[Dr. Bob]

NOT ME!!!

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Dr Bob,

Too bad ... for many reason, I would not mind being an inch or tow taller in the trunk ....

1. More room for food

2. I can weigh more and still meet my goals

3. More women could wear heels with me  ... not my problem but I understand a consideration when picking partner .... *S*

[Trailrider]

Unfortunately, I can't find the picture, but there is one showing an Arizona Ranger with a Mexican Loop holster that has the belt loop going over the top of the belt.  IIRC, the belt was extra wide to accomodate .30-40 Gov't rounds for his M1895 Winchester carbine.  The belt loop is extra long, providing a good bit of drop to the hang of the holster and sixgun.  Although I can't tell from the photo, the gun is probably a Colt's SA, and the AZ Rangers weren't in business until the turn of the 19-20th Century, there's no reason you couldn't pack a Schofield or two (how many back in the day actually packed two six shooters after the cap-and-ball period ended?) in a similar rig.

[Ten Wolves Fiveshooter]

How about adding 2 vertebrae to your back?? 

   Har Har   

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Ten Wolves,

Sounds like a great idea to me, now to just find someone who has the slick kit and is willing/capable  to install it...

TrailRider,

On the day when the previous picture was taken, I walked along all day like some street thug, holding my belt up with one hand. The belt was actually over the curve of my a__, and would have fallen to the ground if it were not for that hand ... LOL

And STILL it was difficult to pull those 7 1/2" barrels ...

The Schofields were issued to the Army in 1875, and probably did not see civilian widespread use until 1880 ... so I think I would be safe to use a Cheyenne holster historically ... where I would be really stretching it would be the dropped loop stuff ... but I think a drop of 1 1/-2 inches woudl be forgivable ...

And I wholeheartedly agree that one Schofield would have been fiscally about all a cowboy would be carrying ... But SASS requires two , and I have two, paid for et al, so I will use them.

[Regret Chancy]

I have 2 different rigs I use with my Uberti Schofields and like them both. One double rig is 2 of the Texas Jacks Schofield crossdraws on a rough out money belt from the same source. The only modifications I used was to mark and drill 2 holes through the belt and inside of the loop (side towards body) and chicago screwed them in position. The second rig I ordered from Alan Soellner at Chisholms Trail Leather and it is the Virgil Earp rig. I went double strongside on these and really like this set up. You can go to his website at chisholmtrailleather.net for his web catalog. You see some of his work in about every Guns of the Old West magazine published. He has the James brothers styles and the 3:10 to Yuma Charlie Prince rigs too. He does really good work and could probably do anything you wanted as far as drop or any other customization to get it how you want it. Just my pennies worth of experience but I am happy with the results of both sets of my Schofield rigs.
                                                                                                                           Regret Chancy

[Montana Slim]

Well, I carry a pair of 8" barreled 1860 Colts considerably higher on my waist & have no trouble drawing......my secret ......
is......reverse-draw carry. Pistols come out slick & safe...anyone questioning my method at a match is welcome to several demonstrations before I shoot "for-real". After a demostration, I've never been "called" / questioned about the safety of this draw.

My method is to draw (reversed) with strong hand, bring (rotate down) the barrel downrange while upside down ( the pistol not me), then twist when its pointed safely downrange. The weakside gun can be either cross-drawed, or weak-hand reverse-draw and shoot weak-hand or transition to strong-hand.

Simple eh?....Well, its easier done than said.

won't cost nothing to try, but you can gain lotsa style points.

Regards,
Slim

[Trailrider]

Well, I carry a pair of 8" barreled 1860 Colts considerably higher on my waist & have no trouble drawing......my secret ......
is......reverse-draw carry. Pistols come out slick & safe...anyone questioning my method at a match is welcome to several demonstrations before I shoot "for-real". After a demostration, I've never been "called" / questioned about the safety of this draw.

My method is to draw (reversed) with strong hand, bring (rotate down) the barrel downrange while upside down ( the pistol not me), then twist when its pointed safely downrange. The weakside gun can be either cross-drawed, or weak-hand reverse-draw and shoot weak-hand or transition to strong-hand.

Simple eh?....Well, its easier done than said.

won't cost nothing to try, but you can gain lotsa style points.

Regards,
Slim

That is the best solution for long-barrelled hawglegs.  I prefer the twist draw. Problem is that you have to have the holsters in the vertical before drawing...or the RO's will have a hissy-fit!  That somewhat negates the advantage...somewhat...  I am as safety conscious as anyone! (Failure Modes and Affects Analysis was a specialty of mine in the aerospace industry.  But some of these rules have gotten way out of hand.  The ONLY way a single action revolver with the hammer lowered on an empty chamber can go off IF YOU KEEP YOUR THUMB OFF THE HAMMER SPUR UNTIL THE GUN IS POINTED SAFELY DOWNRANGE is...to have somebody hit you with a flamethrower!    The 19th Century Army and many citizens (civilians) had it right...a 20-22 degree canted butt-forward carry and draw.  But, like everything else, we've been regulated out of practicality!  So I carry my 7-1/2" Vaquero in a high-ride Miller-Fechet holster.

[Dr. Bob]

Wish I was fast enough to worry about that with my 7 1/2 inch Open Top in my 1871 US Army holster with the flap tucked behing my belt!           

[Montana Slim]

That is the best solution for long-barrelled hawglegs.  I prefer the twist draw. Problem is that you have to have the holsters in the vertical before drawing...or the RO's will have a hissy-fit!  That somewhat negates the advantage...somewhat...  I am as safety conscious as anyone! (Failure Modes and Affects Analysis was a specialty of mine in the aerospace industry.  But some of these rules have gotten way out of hand.  The ONLY way a single action revolver with the hammer lowered on an empty chamber can go off IF YOU KEEP YOUR THUMB OFF THE HAMMER SPUR UNTIL THE GUN IS POINTED SAFELY DOWNRANGE is...to have somebody hit you with a flamethrower!    The 19th Century Army and many citizens (civilians) had it right...a 20-22 degree canted butt-forward carry and draw.  But, like everything else, we've been regulated out of practicality!  So I carry my 7-1/2" Vaquero in a high-ride Miller-Fechet holster.

Agree.....& BTW, I built my holsters to hang straight down for the very reason mentioned.

Regards,
Slim

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Hi,

These holsters were made for me by Will Ghormley. Basically, they are the plain jane, undyed, no-fancy-stitching, Flames of Hell holsters set at 20 Degrees  instead of the original's 30 degree cant.

The mirror behind me in this picture has a very good detali of the holsters. But because SASS does not allow 'double butt forward/double crossdraw holsters, the are rigged double strongside with 20 degreee forward cant ... acually not so bad if I was six-foot-four or so ...




And here is the way I wear them to be SASS friendly:

[Buck Stinson]

Schofield holsters.   www.oldwestreproductions.com  These patterns come from original holsters made for the Schofield.  Any of these can be had in plain, border tooed, extra tooled or hand carved.

#32 Cheyenne
#48 Gallatin
all of the #45 series Slim Jims

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Buck,

Lovely Holsters!

I am reading this on the way out the door; I plan to order a catalog when I get back tonight ....