Another slide project

Slowhand Bob · February 23, 2010, 04:13:14 PM

Guys, this time I took the same basic slide as before but done it with a two round shot shell pouch. Everything is the same as that earlier badge holder (a matched set) until this point where we punched the rivet holes, according to the pattern, for the pouch. This is actually a good project for sewing and would be easy to convert if you so desired. The border cut was done with a stitch groover and colored with the permanent marker, that point sets right into the groove perfectly.

Slowhand Bob · February 23, 2010, 04:35:10 PM

The first photo shows the layout for the actual pouch, you can see the pencil lines against the black dye. Remember that the semi-circle at the top and the round hole in the center are optional. I actually call these push-ups due to the 3/4" hole in the center, which allows one to push the shells to a higher start position right before going to the line.

The second photo simply shows everything (rear view) punched out, fold lines cut and ready for final skiving cut. The two fold lines were cut with a stitch groover rather than a gouge. Simply cut it to the depth desired (two passes in this case) and then roll the groover over on its side to run a widening cut or two, much faster than swapping tools.

Slowhand Bob · February 23, 2010, 04:56:24 PM

These two photos simply show the skive cut that tapers the back of the slide to an almost feather edge on the rough side. This has it ready to be glued in place for riveting (or sewing). If I were going to do this as a sewn project I would definitely cut the back square instead of round to make for an easier sewing job. I really like my little skiving tool for this job as it fits the cut perfectly.

Though it was done in the last step, the holes in the 90deg corners show up a little better here. These serve two good purposes, one they allow cutting into those corners without worry about slightly over cutting and second they really relieve the stres at the folds.

Slowhand Bob · February 23, 2010, 05:17:31 PM

After touch up dye and gluing the pouch slides back to the belt slide I have riveted it in place. The folding works out a lot easier if we dampen the leather a bit but I try to keep the area where the rivets will go as dry as possible. It can be done dry as that is the way I done this one but damp will allow you do the nice molded look. At any rate, now l all that is necessary ro complete this one is to fold and rivet.

Slowhand Bob · February 23, 2010, 05:39:36 PM

Aw this is just fun projects Ten Wolves. I do want to do one more on slides before winding them up as a three piece set. I am going to do a cartridge version showing a quick and dirty hand sewing method that I was using before getting a machine.

This is the final photo of the finished project next to the badge slide done in the earlier post.

JD Alan · February 23, 2010, 06:41:35 PM

You make this look and sound sooooo easy, then there's me! Are you clicking these pieces out or cutting them by hand? That skiving tool looks real slick. Is that available some where commerically? The way the tool is positioned it looks like you're going to push it not pull it. Is that the case?

Not owning a clicker, I'm wondering about having a template made, like Grey Ghost offers. If you were going to make a bunch of them, 35 for a template might not be a bad idea, and likely much cheaper than a clicker. It just takes me so stinkin long to cut these out nice and neat it's a real shame.

This one is going to sound really picky, but it's a challenge nonetheless. Do you have a measurement or formual for getting the rivet holes punched exactly where you need them on the corners of the strap? I've made a couple of these now, and I'm not getting them lined up as straight as I want, so when they get riveted on, the aren't nice and straight

My wife says I'm being too picky, and I reply that's why I married you; I was picky and only wanted the best. She heard the BS meter ringing too, but at least I tried.

Slowhand Bob · February 23, 2010, 09:29:57 PM

This one should be fairly easy to cut as the pouch is a simple letter T and the only place that requires the lines to intersect will be punched out after wards to fix any overlap of the cut. The earlier pouches that looked more like a Ga Tech T with the small horizontal base line, Ill have to search back for the original pattern post, is a clicked out piece and the rest is done by hand. The bottom was cut off using a 1 1/2" Weaver strap end punch and then I overlay my hard pattern over the pieces and mark them with a pencil for cutting/punching. This is somewhat how this has evolved from the original clicker pattern. http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,29223.0.html

The pattern posted is the same one I used to make my hard copy. I do this by gluing the paper pattern, from printer, to a piece of cereal box paper board and then cutting/punching this out just as if it were leather. I use these type patterns on all of my projects and even go so far as to making up patterns that mimic step by step for some projects. For construction work I think these are faster than a Craftaid type arrangement would be. On this project it is critical that you do punch the holes accurately from the pattern on to the pouch and the slide leather. http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,31184.0.html

The little razor tool is a simple scraper that is beefy enough to handle the job of doing light skiving and was found at Harbor Freight. I really like the angle of the head on it and find that I can push it over handed or underhanded depending on how aggressive I want the cut to be.

Kid Terico · February 23, 2010, 09:38:09 PM

SB nice job. One complients the other. Keep up the good work. KT

Ten Wolves Fiveshooter · February 23, 2010, 10:03:43 PM

Howdy Bob, I took my other post out , so that it didn't interfere with the sequence of your layout, you did a great job of explaining your project, this will be a nice project for a lot of pards, and thanks for taking the time to do it, you have a knack for design, and I think you enjoy it.

tEN wOLVES

JD Alan · February 23, 2010, 10:15:07 PM

Thanks Robby for this post and the PM. I sure agree with 10 Wolves on this one, you are a design guru. and a big help for guys like me.

From my experience I agree with you that its critical that you punch the holes accurately, otherwise it looks sloppy, as I can attest to.

I get out to Harbor freight pretty regularly so I will look for that tool.

Thanks for the efforts, JD

amin ledbetter · February 23, 2010, 10:56:25 PM

Very cool SB! I wandering how the shot shell holder went together and was going to ask you as soon as I finished my rig and badge holder, but you beet you me to it with this post. That is awesome. I am going to have to make one! This need to be added to the How To section above. Very informative post pard! Thanks Again for postin this SB!!

This is the kinda stuff that makes this forum so enjoyable!

Gun Butcher · February 24, 2010, 05:56:12 AM

Slowhand thanks for the patterns and the how to's .

I am going to add these to my pattern binder for future use.

Slowhand Bob · February 24, 2010, 06:59:53 AM

Golly guys, yall embarrass me and not because I am modest. I have been struggling with this for a couple of years now, trying to get my existing pattern to work in a more user friendly way and then it happened, I saw my pouch on someone elses belt! I took a look and it was my pouch BUT attached differently and it was the right way. Just so simple and made me feel so dumb. The one I was looking at used sewing in the place of rivets and the sewn down back was cut square rather than round, those alternates I mentioned earlier. Guys, for the most part the leather working books have already been written, we just gotta read them.

Well I am going to be out of pocket fer a spell, the wife has a majer pluming job thet she thinks these old hands can do. Lordy I hate sticking my big ole haid in a commode!