Uberti Burgess Rifle and the Wholly Black

[Cemetery]

Anybody use the new Burgress repro with wholly black yet? 

Was wondering about blowback issues.  To me, it appears that the bolt works like the '92, which would eliminate a whole lot of blowback.  I'm just guessin' cause I get zero blowback on, and in, my '92, as opposed to my '73 when using black.

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Just one man's opinion ... Glad you use Wholly


I wish I could help specifically with your question, 'tho.  For the most part, I recommend a Big Lube (TM) bullet design.  I shoot 45 Colt 'thru a '66 repro and have very little blowback.  Full loads + Big  Lube boolits = insignificant amounts of blowback.  In my experience, of course.  Yer mileage may vary.

www.biglube.com

[Cemetery]

Glad you use Wholly

Full loads + Big  Lube boolits

Ain't no reason to get out of bed if you ain't using either of those.....

Was just wondering about the Burgess, it's another rifle that's trying to find it's way onto my wishlist.  I called Taylor's, they have the 20" and 24" barrels in stock in 45colt.  Was told that 44.40 was on it's way.

Last Cowboy shoot of '09, I used wholly .38's in my Rossi '92, with zip blowback.  After 50 rounds, it was just as clean as it was at the start of the day.  I was told that a '92 would be sloppy with wholly, but that appeared not to be the case.  My '92 ate wholly black real good.  Easy to clean up too.

Which brings me to think the Burgess could be the same.

[Steel Horse Bailey]

It's a safe bet that it would be.

[Blackpowder Burn]

I shoot 44-40's in a '73 with no blowback, and 45LC's in a Marlin with noticeable blowback.  After about 100 rounds in the Marlin I had to really force the bolt closed.  After about 120 rounds, I could no longer chamber a round.  I shoot Big Lubes in both cartridges (200 Mav's in the 44-40 and 250 PRS in the LC).  The only conclusion I can come to is that the straight case of the 45 LC is allowing more blow back.

[Dick Dastardly]

Ho the fire,

I'm comin' in peaceable like, so don't shoot.

The 45 Colt vs 44-40 Win blowback issue turns out to be a matter of neck thickness.  The 44-40 has thinner brass at the neck so it seals the chamber quicker upon ignition.  I kind of wish there were a manufacturer makin' 45 Colt brass with thinner necks.

Also, .38 Spl, 44 Spl, 44 Russian & 44 ELR (44 Mag) are all newer chamberings than 45 Colt.  Thus the chambers fit the ammo better.  45 Colt chambers seem to run all over the map as pertains to dimensions.  The ammo and dies have to be made to worse case fit.

Rather than fight the blowback issue and since it's a new gun purchase, I'd go with the 44-40 Win chambering if I were you.

DD-DLoS

[Cuts Crooked]

Hmmmm? A Burgess rifle chambered in .45 Colt? Now THAT sounds "historically correct"!