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Pitspitr

Daniel I won't make you claim Hillary if you don't try to make us claim her either.
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Jerry M. "Pitspitr" Davenport
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Delmonico

Quote from: Pitspitr on January 09, 2010, 10:27:03 AM
Well, to the best of my knowledge none of my ancestors fought for the confederacy. As a matter of fact my Great-Great- Grandfather was severely wounded by a Confederate ball at Prairie Grove Arkansas., but that has never stopped me from honoring both sides.
When I'm engaged in IWP living history I've often wondered what those of Lakota descent thought of my presentations. I've had the oppertunity to speak with a descendant of American Horse, a Lakota Chief who was killed at Slim Buttes. In this case it seemed that I knew more about his Great Grandfather than he did. Anyway I was honored to have had the oppertunity to speak with the descendant of a very brave man. A man that was very likely killed by the company (company C 9th infantry) that I portray.

As with any historical subject, I figure it's over, get over it, but learn from it.

Well said pard.  To be honest if I belonged to either unit that these clowns were from I would either demand they be removed from the roster or I'd find a different unit that did not tolerate morons.
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Delmonico

Quote from: Pitspitr on January 09, 2010, 10:30:29 AM
Daniel I won't make you claim Hillary if you don't try to make us claim her either.

You can't return used items for a refund, she came as is, no guarantee.
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Texas Lawdog

Well, RCJ beat me to the draw with his post. I am sure that was not the only time that happened.  The Jackson, Mississippi City Hall is owned by the Jackson Masonic Lodge. The Lodge meets upstairs. During the War, It served as a hospital, where both sides were treated and housed. My GG Grandfathers on my Mother's side of the family were from Virginia and both fought for the Confederacy. Both were Masons and I have a ring that was worn by one of them. It's too small for me to wear.
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Steel Horse Bailey

Quote from: Texas Lawdog on January 09, 2010, 11:05:28 AM
Well, RCJ beat me to the draw with his post. I am sure that was not the only time that happened.  The Jackson, Mississippi City Hall is owned by the Jackson Masonic Lodge. The Lodge meets upstairs. During the War, It served as a hospital, where both sides were treated and housed. My GG Grandfathers on my Mother's side of the family were from Virginia and both fought for the Confederacy. Both were Masons and I have a ring that was worn by one of them. It's too small for me to wear.


... And it happened during the Revolutionary War, too.
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Texas Lawdog

I don't have much info in my Dad's side of the family. He was the only Mason that I know of on his side of the family. I had a GG Uncle that was in the Army as a Capt. when the War started. The Reeds' lived in Missouri at that time, so we had members of the family on both sides. My GG uncle would come home leave and not wear his uniform while he was at home. He put it back on when he was ready to return back to duty. It was truly a time of brother against brother. I have his 51 Navy Colt that he carried and most of the original holster.
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Pitspitr

I remain, Your Ob'd Servant,
Jerry M. "Pitspitr" Davenport
(Bvt.)Brigadier General Commanding,
Grand Army of the Frontier
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Guns Garrett

On Dad's side, my GGGrandad (Granville) and his dad (Moses) were in the 35 Mo. Inf. (Union)  Moses was mustered out "due to age" in 1862 as a Sergeant (he was only 42).  Granville served mostly in Arkansas, around Helena and Arkansas Post.  Family stories say he ended up as a guard at a prison camp, with "family" among the prisoners - I have no idea who they were.

On mom's side, my GGGrandad (William P. Johnson) joined in Staunton, VA, April 16, 1861 in the "West Highland Rifles", AKA Co. L, 5th Virginia, 1st ("Stonewall") Brigade.  He took a ball to the head at Henry House Hill at 1st Manassas, survived his wound
(lost an eye), but mustered out in May 1862.

I've been told there's some town in Arkansas with a statue of a "Confederate Soldier" in the town square, or city park, with a plaque with the name of a Vanderpool, but I've forgotten where it is, or the full name of the soldier.  Could be a memorial, with the names of local citizens lost.  My wife's GG Uncle's name is on a memorial plaque at Chickamauga (or maybe Chattanooga).
"Stand, gentlemen; he served on Samar"

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Texas Lawdog

My GGGrandfather(King) is buried in a little cemetary in the High Plains of Texas. He was born in 1838 and died in 1923. I was told that he was buried in his CSA uniform. Both sides of my mothers' family was from Virginia. I don't know where my other maternal GGGrandfather is buried. I was also told that he was buried in his CSA uniform. My GG Gather that is buried in Texas had a metal CSA veteran Iron Cross on his grave for many years. It was stolen form the grave some years. I trying to get as much Info as I can. They have a CSA research Center in Hillsboro, Texas. They charge 20 bucks to do the research for you.
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Pitspitr

TL
Have you looked in this site:

http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/

If you contact the SCV they ought to be able to help you replace the CSA marker.
I remain, Your Ob'd Servant,
Jerry M. "Pitspitr" Davenport
(Bvt.)Brigadier General Commanding,
Grand Army of the Frontier
BC/IT, Expert, Sharpshooter, Marksman, CC, SoM
NRA CRSO, RVWA IIT2; SASS ROI, ROII;
NRA Benefactor Life; AZSA Life; NCOWS Life

Charles Isaac

Quote from: Guns Garrett on January 09, 2010, 08:54:16 PM
......... my GGGrandad (William P. Johnson) joined in Staunton, VA, April 16, 1861 in the "West Highland Rifles", AKA Co. L, 5th Virginia, 1st ("Stonewall") Brigade.  He took a ball to the head at Henry House Hill at 1st Manassas........

Ouch! That's some painful history!

Quote from: Pitspitr on January 10, 2010, 05:42:03 PM
TL
Have you looked in this site:

http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/

If you contact the SCV they ought to be able to help you replace the CSA marker.

Great detective work. :)

Quote from: Texas Lawdog on January 09, 2010, 01:28:55 PM
I had a GG Uncle that was in the Army as a Capt. when the War started.......................I have his 51 Navy Colt that he carried and most of the original holster.

That is outstanding Lawdog! Do you shoot it?

My family was in everything from the Civil war to Viet Nam to the present.  I had just got my Granpa's WWII .45, so I was able to shoot it at the '09 Muster. The only other war gun I know of that got passed down is my Great Great Grandfathers Civil War musket-went to my grandmother's sister's son, and I don't know him, but I imagine going to visit some time and.....now how do you ask a stranger to see a gun? I mean, I just want to see the thing to identify it.

I can see it all now-"Hello, we never met, but your Great Grandfather, Levi Nelson, is my Great Great Grandfather, and I am an historical shooter and collector, and I would just like to see Levi's musket and get some pictures......"

Just seems awkward! :P

Trinity

Why does this sort of thing seem happen more frequently with the Civil War reenactors?  As SHB said, "It's been over since 1865!"

I'm a Revolutionary War reenactor and we always shake our heads when we read these reports.  This one was about a petty argument, but remember last year when someone showed up to a filming with a loaded revolver that wasn't checked?  Because of this carelessness, we are always nervous when we are at events with "silly war" guys.
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S. Quentin Quale, Esq.

I have to say I've got a lot of heartburn with somebody who'd bust a cap on a blank intentionally aimed at somebody.  If I had anything to say about it they'd be physically removed from the site and directed to never return.  One the "demos" we have at mouted shooting orientations is blowing a large hole in a soda pop can with a .45LC blank to bring home the lesson that blanks can be lethal and the full range of firearm safety rules are in full force.

At one event we did have a dual (9mm Beretta vs. Army Colt; the seconds declared the Colt the victor when the Beretta jammed the third time).  But it was staged, correagraphed, and the parties stayed a respectable distance from each other.

Fun's fun, but folks who get too wrapped up in this stuff become a danger to others.

Of course maybe what we have is "life imitating art."  I seem to remember a CSI episode built around a similary incident.

SQQ

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