Anybody seen an 1858 like this?

[delmar]

It is currently listed on GB
without a lot of info. It looks to have a stainless frame, but the rest is not. Looks fabulous!

[River City John]

Since the trigger guard is silver, too, I would guess that someone had one of those brass-bodied '58 fantasy guns plated.

[delmar]

Since the trigger guard is silver, too, I would guess that someone had one of those brass-bodied '58 fantasy guns plated.

Good point. Plus now that I look again it might be even shiner that stainless.

[madcratebuilder]

There are some nickle plated "pinto" 58's around.

[Steel Horse Bailey]

I believe that's what a Pietta "Old Silver" model looks like without the engraving.  Nickel plating is the trick - and could be done - as RCJ said - over a brass frame OR over steel. 

[Montana Slim]

.....Adds a twist to the "brass-framed-fantasy-gun" discussion 

Slim

[schizuki]

Yep, I've seen an 1858 like this. It was used by Angel Eyes in The Good, the Bad & the Ugly.

[Angel_Eyes]

Damn!! I thought I kept that one a secret, (is that plagiarism?)

Looks like it's back to the DVD,,,I don't remember that one,,,another afternoon that the wife will claim I am wasting(he, he, he)

AE

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Damn!! I thought I kept that one a secret, (is that plagiarism?)

Looks like it's back to the DVD,,,I don't remember that one,,,another afternoon that the wife will claim I am wasting(he, he, he)

AE

[schizuki]

Looks like it's back to the DVD,,,I don't remember that one,,,another afternoon that the wife will claim I am wasting(he, he, he)

It's shown several times in the climactic graveyard scene.

[Wolfgang]

It is also seen in the scene on the porch of the saloon where "angel eyes" is getting information from the old soldier with no legs about the fellow with the patch on one eye.  One of my favorite scenes in the movie, . . . even though he wears a gun belt with cartridges in it in the cilvil war era while carrying a cap & ball pistol . . .   

Sergio Leone got some great characters in the movies. . . . The fellow with no legs in that scene, . . in the additional scenes that were cut from the U.S. release there is a hospital scene with a man taking a bath with a missing arm, . . . and in ". . Few Dollars More" the gunfighter that Van Cleef shoots in the street.  I always wondered where Leone found him, . . and then reacently saw "Dajango" and that same guy was in a shootout in a saloon scene.   The bartender in ". . Few Dollars More" that asked "Angel Eyes" why he picked that place to commit suicide in, . . . was the station agent in the beginning of "Once Upon a Time in the West".      Great films . .

[Harley Starr]

Don't know about you, but I know a good place to send my 1858 if I want it to look that good. However when it comes to these guns I would stick with steel frames. There are just way to many "Ifs" as far as brass frames are concerned.

[Angel_Eyes]

Ok, I have assiduously done my research, (what a chore!), watched the film, visited the websites etc.

Unfortunately I have to agree with Shizuki and others that the Remmy used by Angel Eyes, (brilliant name) is very similar to the stainless/silver/nickel framed one shown earlier.

Personally, the frame appears to be more, "in the white" or worn/antiqued, than plated, but thats just me being picky!

Some great anomalies in that film regarding dates of manufacture of some of the firearms used.

A little knowledge can be a curse when watching films of our chosen era of interest, can't it?

AE

[River City John]

A little knowledge can be a curse when watching films of our chosen era of interest, can't it?

AE

But for whom? The Viewer or the Director?

RCJ

[Angel_Eyes]

RC John, I think I would still rather be the knowledgeable viewer than the ignorant (or uninformed) director.

That way yu'all can sit there all smug-like!

AE

[Steel Horse Bailey]

 

[pony express]

I remember looking at one like that at a gun show a few years back. The owner was saying it was a stainless frame, but I DON"T think if it was really stainless, that you'd see casting marks in the sight channel, in the cylinder window, etc. This one had all those casting marks showing, just like a brass gun. But it sure looked nice, I might have taken it home, if he'd been asking a brass price.......but he was pricing it like a stainless remmie.

[Harley Starr]

RC John, I think I would still rather be the knowledgeable viewer than the ignorant (or uninformed) director.

That way yu'all can sit there all smug-like!

AE

Let's face it, according to Sir Christopher Frayling, Leone probably felt the cartridges would take less time to load, and indeed they did. With Sergio Leone, it had nothing to do with real life, but it had alot to do with fantasy, and what a strange fantasy it was. A kind of Twilight Zone western.

[schizuki]

A director can film a movie like a portrait, to be true to life. Or he can make an abstract painting, to elicit an emotion.

Lonesome Dove is a portrait. Spaghetti Westerns are abstract expressionism. They both work.

[Raven]

some Original Remingtons also came with Silver or Nickle plated frames and blued barrel, cylinder, loading lever and small parts. They look very cool when a little of the shine wears off.

Regards
Raven