Merwin, Hulbert & Co revolvers

[RDak]

Merwin Hulbert was part of a purchase by Broadsword Group. They have elected NOT to manufacture any revolvers, and are sending letters to those who sent payment to refund that money. I understand they would like to sell MH to a company who would actually make them, but no luck so far.

http://www.broadswordgroup.com/mh_announcement.html

I just bought a MH 7 shot .32 pocket pistol, and I might just look for a large caliber MH that I can afford.

FWIW, this seems to be the end of that whole project.

mark

Yes, it is the end of the project.

I was one of the customers who made full payment in advance for their 1878 model over 1 year ago.

I took a BIG chance but, in the end, the project went belly up.

They sent me a certified letter yesterday stating my refund of the total purchase price is going to be made as part of an agreement reached with the Wyoming Attorney General's Office (I assume as part of the settlement of the entire matter and to be able to takeover the new business and old assets?).

I never expected this refund and think the Wyoming AG must have played an instrumental part in this.  When (if) I really do receive a full refund I will email the Wyoming AG thanking him/her for doing this for all of us MH customers.

Oh well, I took a BIG GAMBLE but at least it looks like my money will be refunded.

[Major 2]

keep us posted .... you are quite the gambler 

I'd be surprised, if you see your money

[CRM]

http://www.broadswordgroup.com/mh_announcement.html

Good to hear this.

I am optimistic for you.

As far as buying a New Merwin, made here in America for $1250.00,

An't gonna happen.

[Blackpowder Burn]

I find the comment below from the Broadsword Group announcement interesting.  Perhaps there is still some hope for a M&H reproduction down the line.

"Although the reintroduction of these Old West revolvers was a dream for many, Broadsword has elected to cease development of the project and pass it on to a company with a long history of success in this sort of reproductions."

[St. George]

They sold the 'name' - period - they didn't have anything else.

It's like sitting on corporate names like 'Coca-Cola.com/net/org' and hoping someone else will pay the asking fee.

Given that C&WAS is by and large a dying 'sport' - there's zero financial sense in introducing a revolver with limited appeal and almost no 'out-of-cowboy' usage.

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[Earl Brasse]

If they ever existed,  what happened to all of the parts they were supposed to have already made up?

If they would fit originals, I could use some parts.

[St. George]

There were no parts.

'Supposing' to make them and actually making them are two wholly different things.

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[Blackpowder Burn]

Everyone to their own opinion - mine just don't tend to be universally negative.

[Major 2]

I not so much as an opinion,  as seeing history repeat....

this not the first time a carrot was dangled,  I can name several such ventures ...
the twist here will be "IF"  the money is refunded 

[Graveyard Jack]

If they ever existed,  what happened to all of the parts they were supposed to have already made up?

They never even had a working prototype, or even a non working prototype. All I ever saw were digital 3D models.

[CRM]

They never even had a working prototype, or even a non working prototype. All I ever saw were digital 3D models.

They did have two, maybe three non working, incomplete,  attempts at building the "Merwin", and did post pictures of their progress.

I think that is when reality hit them, -  "this is gonna be a bear to skin". "We can't get there from here."

I then ask them on open forum, "Why are you still taking deposits for a gun you can't build for $1250 ?"

Mike Blank then answered by saying, "They had quit taking deposits".

Mike and I had talked about working together on another type of gun, but could not get together on it.

I still believe he had good intentions, but just bit off more than he could chew.

[St. George]

It had been my understanding that what was shown were the cleaned-up and prepped parts from originals to use for their 'in progress' photos.

No matter, now.

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[yeti76620]

Don't mean any offense to any one here......

It's just funny how this dead ol' horse keeps get'n dug up 'n beat from all sorts of angles....... it's amusing...    

Carry On....

Yeti76620

[St. George]

I've mentioned taking this one down several times - but folks like to use it as an object lesson - and for amusement.

Remember - "There Is No Horse So Dead That You Cannot Continue To Beat It'...

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[yeti76620]

I've mentioned taking this one down several times - but folks like to use it as an object lesson - and for amusement.

Remember - "There Is No Horse So Dead That You Cannot Continue To Beat It'...

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LOL....I guess the horse don't mind anymore....

Yeti76620

[CRM]

That's a good one St George 

For me, it's about the Gun.
Not people, but the Gun.
There were a lot of guns that have come and gone. You might say these Guns are dead.
The Merwin is one of um. "Gone but not forgotten". Who knows, maybe someday these glorious guns might live again.

In actuality, a lot of them have. Just look at the "Henry", the 1860 Colt, and others.
That makes me happy.

[Old No7]

Remember - "There Is No Horse So Dead That You Cannot Continue To Beat It..."

In the spirit of that comment, maybe we can all learn more about what to do with "dead horses"... 

Dakota Indian tribal wisdom says that when you discover you are riding a colloquial dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.

However, in modern organizations, we often try other strategies with dead horses, including the following:
* buying a stronger whip
* changing riders
* saying things like "This is the way we always have ridden this horse"
* appointing a committee to the study the horse
* arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses
* increasing the standards to ride dead horses
* appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horses
* creating a training session to increase our riding ability
* comparing the state of dead horses in today's environment
* passing a resolution declaring: "This horse is not dead"
* blaming the horses' ancestry
* harnessing several dead horses for increased speed
* declaring that "No horse is too dead to beat"
* providing additional funding to increase the horse's performance
* do a study to see if contractors can ride it cheaper
* declare the horse is better, faster and cheaper dead
* form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses
* revisit the performance requirements for dead horses
* say that this horse was procured with cost as the independent variable
* promote the dead horse to a supervisory position

OK, that's enough "horse play" for tonight...  Enjoy!

Old No7

[Deadeye Don]

Just because an Attorney General makes an agreement with or a court order is signed to refund money doesn't mean it will happen if there are no assets to sell and no money in the bank. 

I, too would be shocked if anybody receives a refund.

[litl rooster]

Remember - "There Is No Horse So Dead That You Cannot Continue To Beat It'...

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This one gives me great pleasure to follow. Always been fishy
They need to start one on a Leather guy that took peoples money then dissappeared on them.

[St. George]

No - and I do know who you mean, and I even own one of his holsters - a floral-carved Cheyenne style a'la the dustjacket of 'Packing Iron' that I bought off the shelf in Hill City, South Dakota.

That one has too many 'good ol' pards' that get defensive and mean-spirited in their replies.

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