Merwin, Hulbert & Co revolvers

[Stophel]

Has anything ever come of the company that was wanting to reproduce the Merwin Hulberts?  Are they still around and actually producing guns?

[Jed Cooper]

Stophel, Not yet pard.But If you contact them, they will put you on an update list. Jed

[Short Knife Johnson]

That is something I really hope flies, but as an original Merwin Hulbert owner, and looking my gun over, I just can't see how they will be able to replicate them for an affordable price.  There's a lot of stuff going on in one of those little wonders.  If they do make it go, I'm ordering a single action Pocket Army with the bird's head grip in ".44 1873 Winchester" and a 4 1/4 barrel if they'll do it(for legal purposes here in Canada).

[St. George]

I wouldn't hold my breath - he's fishing for start-up money and that's all.

These revolvers are notoriously convoluted - and yeah, I know all about the supposed 'ease' of today's manufacturing techniques - we hash the MH question over and over.

The point is - it'd be a Merwin, Hulbert - designed for a very few shooters - 'not' a simple Ruger casting designed for mass production - and that means that no matter what, a helluva lot of hand-finishing would be required.

C&WAS shooters all 'want' certain old designs to be replicated - largely for their perusal - but none of them will be willing to pay the associated costs.

Built the way it is, ergonomically uncomfortable and a hard-recoiling piece, the revolver offers nothing to any other shooter - other than mere curiosity - and a manufacturer 'needs'  to appeal to more than the miniscule number represented in C&WAS.

Hell - they can't even get a decent, correct 1875 Remington squared away for production - a Merwin, Hulbert is a lot further off...

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[Stophel]

Found the website, the price seems to start at like $1250.  Given what the gun would be, that isn't bad....but I really can't see such a thing going that cheap!  They don't seem to show examples of their work on the website (that I can tell).  Basically it seems you would be sending them money to be a guinea pig!  I wish them all the luck, but even if I had the cash I don't think I would go for it the way it stands right now.  They need to have something going first.

[St. George]

That's what the other threads on this topic have noted - and that price has been around for awhile - it has to've risen.

And all this for a poorly-done digitized photo lifted from another book's page - not taken from an actual example of the existing product.

Vaya,

Scouts out!

[kurt250]

i have been fallowing that companys web site. they talk alot about what people want, whos going to make them etc. but they don't even have a artist picture of one! just a lot of talk about whos doing this or that. they want to get you to put up money now before the first one is made. after enron. and some of the other snake oil salesmen that have been exsposed lately. i think i'll need alittle more then there word. i bought american frontier firearms when the came out. paid 600 to 700 dallars for them. they never worked right, and now there bankrupt. the pedasoli are cheaper, well made and work. these guys are going to have put up something more then a fancy web site and a load of b.s. if they want to get my money. look ,i wish them good luck, and ill buy a brace of them, if they go into production and are well made and function. but they have to work, not like a.f.f . that have visited many gunsmiths around the country, and still don't work. my pedasolis work great and have never seen a gunsmith. thats what these guys are going to have to do.gotzguns

[St. George]

Buy a 'real' Merwin, Hulbert.

Seriously.

Sure, prices have risen - thanks to C&WAS folks - but they can and do turn up and some are quite reasonably priced, though an average price will buy you a new Colt.

Get a high-quality pair of replacement grips, in order to save the originals, clean it thoroughly, lube it well and use a sensible blackpowder load that doesn't exceed standard blackpowder velocities - and don't try to 'compete' with the thing, and you'll do fine.

Plus, you'll have something that's 'real'  - that you can point to with pride, and speculate about what it's seen during its service life - and not a clone with no history.

Besides, should you ever part with it - you'll actually make money - and no clone does that...

Good Luck!

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[Chance]

Does anyone know of a supplier of .44MH brass or a current case that can be resized.

Chance

[Pony Racer]

Ask this fellow - he is very good at providing reloading services, bullets and brass for other obscure and obsolete cartridges.

http://www.gadcustomcartridges.com

His French 11m ammo has been awesome for my pair of French 1873 11mm St Etienne pistols.

I have also used his 8mm lebel ammo, 45-60, and 43 spanish while getting ready to reload those calibers.

V/r

PR

[Chance]

Thanks, PR
Great site. Lead prices are really good. As an example, .375 lead ball over here in the UK ftom one distributor is around $20 per 100! Unfortunately the shipping from your side of the Pond is now prohibitive as everything is sent air mail.

Chance

[Montana Slim]

Does anyone know of a supplier of .44MH brass or a current case that can be resized.

Chance

I believe .41 magnum pistol brass can be trimmed back.

[Chance]

Thanks, Slim
I'll look into that.

Chance

[Skeeter Lewis]

No news in a long time. Has his project died the death?

[St. George]

It would seem so, since the so-called 'manufacturer' hasn't produced anything beyond words.

Actually building an expensive new C&WAS weapon for a dying sport doesn't seem to be a model business plan, since so few would purchase, but providing a catalog of digitized photos and promising one in return for a non-refundable deposit is almost as good as being that Nigerian Prince we've all gotten an email from.

Caveat Emptor.

Vaya, 

Scouts Out!

[Pancho Peacemaker]

I have a friend who is at the SHOT show this week in Las Vegas.

There is no Merwin Hulbert rep or display at the show.

[St. George]

Nope...

And the couple of guys I had looking - really looked, because I knew this topic'd come up again...

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[Deadeye Don]

Lol.  Not surprised. I do feel bad for all those who sent in gifts of money. 

[Major 2]

Nope...

And the couple of guys I had looking - really looked, because I knew this topic'd come up again...

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

to echo that..I have Freeman's ( General Contractor) Exhibitor list, & master floor plan In LV
M&H are not listed nor is there a sharing Co. listed 

[Pettifogger]

Last year all M&H had was one shelf in a display case at someone else's booth.  This year i didn't see hide nor hair of them.