1875 grip vs. 1858 grip

Started by lukewepy, July 14, 2009, 06:42:09 PM

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lukewepy

Is the grip on the 1875 remmie the same as on the 58 remmie? Have a 58 at the moment and am wondering if there is any differences.

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Flint

The 1875/1890 grip does not have the circular shape at the top, it is a straight line.  The entire gripframe steps back away from the triggerguard noticably more than the 58, there is much more room for the fingers.
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Daniel Nighteyes

Quote from: Flint on July 15, 2009, 12:07:59 AM
... The entire gripframe steps back away from the triggerguard noticably more than the 58, there is much more room for the fingers.

Concur.  They are similar, but by no means the same.  If you have small hands or short fingers, the "more room" that Flint describes becomes a liability rather than a blessing.  Speaking only for myself (he who has large hands but short fingers), I find the New Model Army's grip to be much more comfortable and usable than the 1875's grip.  Obviously, your mileage may vary...

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lukewepy

How does the 75 grip compare with a 1860 army grip? That is the other gun I currently own.

Flint

Quite different again.  The 1860 Army grip is longer, just as it is longer than the Navy grip, and the setback of the 1875/90 grip is still greater than the Colt, as it is from the 58 Remington.
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Flint

Photos in the same box to compare:

1875 Uberti



1858 Uberti



1858 Pietta



1860 Army Uberti



1851 Navy Uberti



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Daniel Nighteyes


lukewepy

Wow. Flint, that's exactly the type of comparison I was looking for! Thanks! It looks like the Remington hammers have a much lower profile than the colts. Seems like that would be a nice advantage to offset the wider space between gripframe and trigger guard. I do have rather large hands, but normal length fingers as far as I can tell.

Nighteyes, what do you consider short fingers? If ya don't mind my asking.

Sorry for all the questions, just not really any 75's readily available in my neck of the woods to try out.

Marshal Will Wingam

Another difference is the length of travel of the hammer. The NMA (1858) has the shortest travel of all of them. The 1875 has the longest travel of all of them. Colts are somewhere in the middle, depending on which model you're holding. I know pards that shoot Colts and manage to short stroke the 1875's. They take a little getting used to. I shoot the NMA's and single-handed shooting is easier than on others for my hand. I bought an 1875 thinking it would be the same. No way at all. For me they're comfortable to hold but very different than my NMAs.

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Daniel Nighteyes

Quote from: Marshal Will Wingam on July 16, 2009, 08:50:15 PM
I shoot the NMA's and single-handed shooting is easier than on others for my hand. I bought an 1875 thinking it would be the same. No way at all. For me they're comfortable to hold but very different than my NMAs.

+1 on the NMA's.  My main match pistols, for better than 2 years now, are a pair of Uberti NMAs.  I bought a pair of stainless Pietta NMA's as well, but find that I have trouble engaging the hammers with my thumbs (slightly different geometry dontcha know).  With that said, imagine how difficult it turned out to be for my thumbs to successfully engage the hammer spurs on the 1875. :-[ :-\

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