New Krag Infantry rifle

Dusty Tagalon · July 06, 2009, 08:59:16 PM

I have added an 1898 Krag infantry rifle to my collection. Complete with a repo sling & 1902 sights.

I will be using it in a couple of weeks at the Phoenix Irregular Guard shoot in Clofax, IA. If it shoots as good as my 98 cut down carbine, I won't have a problem.

Dusty

Niederlander · July 06, 2009, 09:37:08 PM

Cool!!!
My favorite rifle! You'll love it!

MUD MARINE · July 06, 2009, 11:22:53 PM

"Civilize 'em with a Krag!"

Semper Fidelis

:-)

Hunter · July 07, 2009, 12:51:13 PM

With as much affection that American shooters have for the Krag, you would think a company would make an attempt at reproducing them?? Doing so wouldn't be any more difficult than manufacturing many of the other reproduction rifles on the market today such as the Spencer, Trapdoor, Colt Lightning, etc. There certainly would be a demand for a newly made Krag and Pedersoli has already made reproduction Krag rifles albeit on a limited production basis. Perhaps we, as people who enjoy shooting historical military firearms should put a bug in Pedersoli's ear? I would prefer the rifles be built here, but I fear the cost would be prohibative.

Can any of you imagine what a brand new Krag would look like if it were built by U.S. Firearms? It makes me drool just thinking of it

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the thread, congrats on your new Krag Dusty

Respectfully,

Wesley J. Bodine
Member # 439
NRA Life Member I. D. # 001834062

Dusty Tagalon · July 07, 2009, 05:56:02 PM

Actually instead of a new manufacturer, it would be nice if someone would put together a carbine stock set, that could be used to replace the butchered stocks. Butchered Krags can be picked up for under $500.

Dusty

Captain Lee Bishop · July 07, 2009, 09:01:32 PM

Quote from: Hunter on July 07, 2009, 12:51:13 PMWith as much affection that American shooters have for the Krag, you would think a company would make an attempt at reproducing them?? Doing so wouldn't be any more difficult than manufacturing many of the other reproduction rifles on the market today such as the Spencer, Trapdoor, Colt Lightning, etc.

Yeah, darn it, that's what i was hoping this thread was about! Still, I doubt there's a real "need" for a Krag given the economy right now and the fact you can't shoot CAS in hardly any place with one.

Niederlander · July 07, 2009, 09:10:04 PM

You can in our club! That's where I learned to shoot those things in rapid fire!

Drydock · July 07, 2009, 11:16:39 PM

S&S has rifle stocks that can be cut down to Carbine. Every once't awhile Numrich gets a run of "Drop in" Krag Carbine stocks. I got one of these a couple of years back, used to convert my sporter back to Milspec.

Pitspitr · July 08, 2009, 08:07:34 AM

Capt. Bishop
Echo what Ned Neiderlander said and add that you should really try to make it to the Grand Muster this fall, as it is being held at our club. What Ned didn't mention is that you should see some of the really cool toys that get shot at our range from time to time. That's one of the benefits of our size (we're very small) and our independence.

River City John · July 08, 2009, 04:04:19 PM

We've had Trap Doors, Krags, Martini-Henrys, Rolling Blocks . . . at all the Musters so far.

Drydock · July 14, 2009, 12:21:11 AM

Many local SASS/CAS clubs would be happy to allow a GAF class I believe, if you can properly demonstrate it to them. The greatest objection is rifle ammo, once you demonstrate how the rifle is actualy loaded to CAS spec and will not hurt their targets, they're usualy only too happy to allow it.

Pitspitr · July 14, 2009, 08:30:52 AM

My home club was allowing the rifles that became the GAF class rifles before there was a GAF class. And I know Bowview Haymaker's club allows GAF classes. Other than occaisonally knocking a target over, we've never had a problem. I've even shot my personal targets with jacket bullets from my 1911 and Tommygun and not had a problem. Hopefully Bowview and Ned Neiderlander will chime in with their observations and expiriences.

Dalton Masterson · July 14, 2009, 11:09:12 AM

I do know that our Wild Bunch shoot at Platte Valley Gunslilngers is allowing jacketed 45s, due to the high quality of the steel we use. I dont know how well it would hold up to other faster rounds, but I imagine it would.
We have a plainsman class at our black powder shoot in October, and the guy that shot it last year, used his Rolling Block and it sure rocked the targets, but it didnt hurt them a bit.

DM

Pitspitr · July 14, 2009, 12:32:32 PM

Quote from: Dalton Masterson on July 14, 2009, 11:09:12 AM
I dont know how well it would hold up to other faster rounds, but I imagine it would.

Well, I don't know about any rounds other than .45lc, .45acp, .45-70, .50-70 and .223. No trouble with any but the .223. My reset target is rated for up to .45. I reasoned that a .223 is smaller than a .45 so it should be safe, right? Well, J. Dawg and I were just having a ball ringing the steel with my Mini-14...clear up to the time we walked up to the target.

It looked like swiss cheese with most hits blowing all the way through and leaving about a 3/8" hole.

it took a lot of welding to fix it. $:-\$

Dalton Masterson · July 14, 2009, 01:33:12 PM

Yep. Its a neat thing watching fast rounds zip thru things.
Its neat too, to watch a .50 cal muzzleoading bullet hit a steel plate, and have the weld break off, and the plate fall to the ground. It even put a dent in the plate to boot. Wasnt too good of steel me thinks.
DM

Niederlander · July 14, 2009, 08:52:49 PM

At our club we allow any rifle or pistol that was in use before about 1905 or thereabouts. That's for our regular cowboy matches. As long as they shoot lead bullets under about 1500 fps for rifles they don't hurt a thing. We also allow gas checks, as our rifle targets are always at least thirty to thirty-five yards away. I sometimes shoot a Krag rifle as my main match rifle, and we've had an 1888 Commission Rifle and an 1891 Moison-Nagant as main match rifles as well. (Those are just the ones I can think of right now.) Oh yeah, my main match rifle this last Saturday was an 1886 Winchester in .45-70. It's fun seeing the old rifles get used instead of just hanging on a wall!

Dalton Masterson · July 14, 2009, 09:19:03 PM

So, this is a little off topic, but if I wanted to use my M91 Mosin, I would have to portray a Russian? Or is there another class that would allow that?
DM

Drydock · July 14, 2009, 09:39:04 PM

A Russian, or a Mexican revolutionary, or perhaps a South African Boer, or most any kind of Partisan or irregular. While we prefer Regulars, it can be hard coming up with a uniform, and with the flood of cheap Moisins out there, I suspect this will come up quite a bit. Probably the easiest/cheapest way to shoot a Moisin 91 is to dress cowboy and just shoot it. Or dress like "Fiddler on the Roof" and wave the flag of revolution. Maybe glue on a droopy mustache and yell "Viva Villa" while reloading . . .

But to use a Moisin in the Milspec Repeater Smokeless Class with a chance at the Brigade Championship, your gonna pretty much have to go Imperial Russian. Madness yes, but possibly treatable . . .

Dalton Masterson · July 14, 2009, 11:19:43 PM

Aaah, I dont think I could pull it off. But, its something to think about when I am out and about.
It may not come up as often as you think, as M91s arent really cheap, but the 91/30s are.
Thanks.
DM (and to put this topic back on topic, KRAG)

scooter · July 18, 2009, 07:23:34 PM

at our local club we have added a GAF class it is incorpated in our cody dixon class. long range that is. shooter engages the long range targets (around 100 to 150 yards) with any rifle then continues with handguns and shotguns. the shooting class will be expanded as more interested shooters ar recruired. presently, we have 5 to 6 GAF menders. we will be breaking the class down into Milspec and lever as we speak. several clubs in the area have started a cody dixxon calss in their monthly shoots. scoring is the same as the cody dixon ( 6 rounds fired). we feel that when other shooters see how much fun we are having ( we dont care what time we get on the score card) others will join.thats my opinion nothing more, nothing less..