Last call for Brass

Rowdy Fulcher · February 26, 2009, 03:53:38 PM

Howdy Pards
If you are needing brass call Jamison they are getting ready to start production . I got a call from Terri wanting to know how much brass we the shooters needed I don't know how much you need and what calibers you need . So call them if they don't get any calls they might pull the plug

? call 605-347-5090

ndnchf · February 27, 2009, 12:02:52 PM

I just called and talked to Terri. They definately want to hear from folks interested in the '76 calibers. As of now, 46 people have viewed this thread, I hope you will all call Jamison and express your interest.

They are planning on making a run of .40-60, .45-60, 45-75 and .50-95, but they need to know there are folks who want it. She said they are expecting to have it available by June. I did ask about .50-95 prices. Individual retail price will be $1.69 ea. Dealer price will be $1.27ea and distributor price under a buck.

This is a unique opportunity to get top quality brass with proper dimensions and headstamp at a reasonable price.

larryo_1 · February 27, 2009, 12:24:41 PM

Do you know if they ship directly to us or do we go through a dealer?

Mike D. · February 27, 2009, 01:44:54 PM

I also called and spoke to her. They are very interested in the production of several different requested cartridges, including the .45-75WCF. Teri also told me that they had requested that interested shooters send in their brass to assist with correct sizing of the new production cases. My name has been added to the list and they will notify all interested persons when the cases are in production. I can't wait.

ndnchf · February 27, 2009, 02:03:47 PM

Yes, they will ship directly.

And yes, please send them a sample brass from your rifle and tell them what brand your rifle is. They want to make sure they know what the chambers look like. I sent 'em one of my expensive Ten-X .50-95 cases. I figure it is a good investment in quality future brass.

Rowdy Fulcher · February 27, 2009, 04:04:05 PM

Thank You
When WE all call and let them know what caliber and how much, they get the numbers they need remember it's a business and if it's not PROFITABLE for them they can't and won't do it . Keep up the good work .

larryo_1 · February 27, 2009, 04:17:00 PM

ndnchf
I called and place an order--albiet--only two boxes but didn't know about sending in some brass. What is their mailing address? Or maybe I'll just call back and get it?

Dirty Brass · February 27, 2009, 05:13:50 PM

I don't get it. Is it really necessary for 46 people to send in empty cases in 45/75 or 45/60 caliber? They aren't going to run chamber specific lots for different guns are they? I would think a sampling of 10 or 15 cases would give them what they need to work with. Just asking - are these guns that different in chambers between importers??

ndnchf · February 27, 2009, 07:13:01 PM

Here's their address:

Jamison International LLC
3551 Mayer Ave
Sturgis, SD 57785

How many fired cases do they need? That's a good question DB. I don't know for sure. But I do know they would like a sampling of each caliber and each manufacturer. If I were them, I'd like at least 2 samples (from different guns) of each just to be sure.

Let my do some cypherin' here - there are 4 cartridges; .40-60, .45-60, .45-75 and .50-95. Then there are three rifle manufacturers; Uberti, Chaparral and Winchester. 4 cartridges x 3 manufacturers =12. If they can get 2 samples of each, that would make 24 samples.

So, I'd say no they don't need a sample from everyone. But then again, it would show them there are quite a few people serious about these rifles. It certainly would be a good-will gesture on our part to encourage them to go into production sooner.

Like Rowdy said, it is a business and it needs to be profitable for them

larryo_1 · February 28, 2009, 08:25:33 AM

I was going to call or write them as I already have placed an order but didn't know about sending a case. I don't think that we all need to do this but do place your order. I, for one, am not worrying about what shape or size my 45-75 case will be because once it is fired in my rifle, it is a fire-formed case anyway. Then I size em and trim em so it don't make any difference to me. Bertram cases came to fit-I think- an original chamber but once fired they are mine out of my own rifle. So I don't feel it is necessary for me to send a sample. That is MHO anyway.

Dirty Brass · February 28, 2009, 10:07:14 AM

That's kinda what I was thinkin' too larryo_1. From the replies in previous posts it looked like a lot of brass was sent in (of course it could have all been shot out of a Cimarron or Winchester model - didn't say). I guess a few more wouldn't hurt. I'm guessing this brass will be correctly marked per caliber, i.e. 45/75, 45/60, etc.? I might pick up a couple of boxes of each just for that reason, since all mine are reformed from 45/70, 50 AK, or 348 Win. Would be nice to have some correctly stamped authentic ones

Rowdy Fulcher · February 28, 2009, 11:08:32 AM

Howdy Pards
Yes the jamison brass will have the correct head stamp . Keep there phone a ringin .

Black River Johnny · February 28, 2009, 08:23:21 PM

I called them and put my order in for 500 45-75 cases. I also told them I would not be sending a case. Didn't they make these once before?

Dirty Brass · March 01, 2009, 10:52:02 AM

I tried calling Saturday, but no answer. I'll try again Monday. Do they have a email address to contact them? I've looked but cannot find one anywhere....

Update - I found this in an old forum listing from 2007. I'll try it and see if it is current - 'ya never know

Jamison International V LLC.
3551 Mayer Ave.
Sturgis, SD 57785
Phone: 605-347-5090
Fax: 605-347-4704
E-Mail: jamisonintl@rushmore.com

Rowdy Fulcher · March 02, 2009, 01:54:38 PM

Howdy Boys
Today I mailed Jamison 4 pieces of 45-60 brass fired from a Uberti /Cimarron . I want to thank everyone again for sending in brass and calling in . We could save some money if we could all go together as one big order . I would rather by it at $.97 . What do you think ?

john boy · March 02, 2009, 07:58:48 PM

I don't understand either why Jamison wants samples of fired cases from the '76 Winchester calibers. All they would have to do is contact the manufacturers and ask them what spec's they cut the chambers to or look up the SAAMI specifications for the cases. I would think they are a member

Example: Chaparral has the specifications on their website ... http://www.chaparralarms.com/specs/technicalspecs.htm What could be easier? Before they put up this page, I contacted them and here's the 45-75 diagram they sent me ...

Then the real question is - what do they plan to do with the samples that are sent in?

Hoof Hearted · March 03, 2009, 09:51:52 AM

Quote from: larryo_1 on February 28, 2009, 08:25:33 AM
I was going to call or write them as I already have placed an order but didn't know about sending a case. I don't think that we all need to do this but do place your order. I, for one, am not worrying about what shape or size my 45-75 case will be because once it is fired in my rifle, it is a fire-formed case anyway. Then I size em and trim em so it don't make any difference to me. Bertram cases came to fit-I think- an original chamber but once fired they are mine out of my own rifle. So I don't feel it is necessary for me to send a sample. That is MHO anyway.

Larry

This is correct

The "shape" of the case is all over the place a Chaparral did not know what a go or no-go gauge was for. The base dimension should never change as well as the OAL. I for one really, REALLY hope that Jamison leaves the rim thickness as per original specs. Many of the rifles out there in 45-75 close very tight on the thicker reformed brass (348 and 50AK). I'm not sure why we are trying to modify the case to fit poor quality control?

?

HH

larryo_1 · March 03, 2009, 10:30:43 AM

HH:
Couldn't agree more. The only trouble that I ran into was with the 50AK brass as I had to trim a schoch off the front of the rims so that they would chamber. As for the 348 brass--no problems at all. With this new run of Jamison, I won't have anything to worry about as once fired, in my rifle, they will conform to my rifle and my dies anyway. So, if they run them using the original measurements, I really see no problem---as for as I am concerned that is.

Rowdy Fulcher · March 03, 2009, 01:22:01 PM

Jon Boy
They will send your brass plus the free sample for HELPING .

john boy · March 03, 2009, 01:30:36 PM

Gents, I'm still scrathing my head about Jamison. I'f they start chasing the various case rim thicknesses (and how do they propose to do it if they don't know the headspace that the cases were shot in) ... Jamison will have to quesstimate an average rim thickness to satisfy all the rifles sold.

In fact, just getting off the phone with Terri - this is what they plan to do! And she admitted, not knowing what the head spaces for each of the samples sent to them (which nobody has identified) - it will be tough trying to come up with an average. Why? Because there are 4 flavors of cases in existence:
1. The originals for the '76 Winchesters
2. The revised Winchester case dimensions made at the turn of the century to fit the chambers/linkages that had gotten sloppy
3. The Chaparrals that are cut to the Winchester turn of the century cartridge dimensions
4. And everything else!

I wish them the best of luck - BUT?
And PS - they don't want any 348 resized fired cases