My 'fluted' stainless Uberti 1860

Henry4440 · February 16, 2009, 08:53:52 AM

Today i got my stainless 'fluted' 1860 Uberti.
It's from 1974.

Pettifogger · February 16, 2009, 09:29:36 AM

That has got to be scarce! Only seen a couple of stainless armies, never one with flutes.

Deadeye Dick · February 16, 2009, 10:02:30 AM

Henry,
Those are real nice lookin' shootin' irons. I don't think I've ever seen a stainless 1860 Army by Uberti. Thanks for sharing.

Fingers McGee · February 16, 2009, 11:05:27 AM

I don't believe Uberti made any stainless 1860 Armies as early as 1974. They did make some in the early '80s, and some of the parts for the 2nd Gen Colts; but, none of them were fluted.

Love the Henry. Very nice engraving job done on it.

FM

Henry4440 · February 16, 2009, 11:14:55 AM

Quote from: Fingers McGee on February 16, 2009, 11:05:27 AM
I don't believe Uberti made any stainless 1860 Armies as early as 1974. They did make some in the early '80s, and some of the parts for the 2nd Gen Colts; but, none of them were fluted.

Love the Henry. Very nice engraving job done on it.

FM

Modern Black Powder Proofmarks
XXX=1974
https://store.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/POWDER/MBPProofmarks.pdf

Fox Creek Kid · February 16, 2009, 06:54:20 PM

Quote from: Fingers McGee on February 16, 2009, 11:05:27 AM
I don't believe Uberti made any stainless 1860 Armies as early as 1974. They did make some in the early '80s, and some of the parts for the 2nd Gen Colts; but, none of them were fluted...

I was of the same belief. I know Allen Arms sold some imported Ubertis in the early '80's that were stainless.

Lonesone Henry, no offense but how do you know it's stainless and not just "in the white"? I'm not asking you to do a copper sulfate swab test, mind you.

Henry4440 · February 16, 2009, 09:06:16 PM

Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on February 16, 2009, 06:54:20 PM
I was of the same belief. I know Allen Arms sold some imported Ubertis in the early '80's that were stainless.

Lonesone Henry, no offense but how do you know it's stainless and not just "in the white"?

How do i know? I didn't know.They wrote it in the description.

Stainless, 'in white', now i'm a little bit confused.
A copper sulfate swab test?

Now i have to call Hege Uberti here in Germany.They must give me an answer.

Fingers McGee · February 17, 2009, 12:09:10 AM

Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on February 16, 2009, 06:54:20 PM
I was of the same belief. I know Allen Arms sold some imported Ubertis in the early '80's that were stainless.

Lonesone Henry, no offense but how do you know it's stainless and not just "in the white"? I'm not asking you to do a copper sulfate swab test, mind you.

That's where I was headed FCK; that it was actually polished in the white. The SS models that Uberti and Colt made in the 80s were completely stainless. They didn't have brass BS/TG. I have a stainless '51 Navy and 2nd Gen Colt '51 Navy and '60 Army. Colt only made 3 models in SS while Uberti made five.

While I havent tried it, I've been told another method for testing whether it is SS or in the white would be to try cold bluing it in an inconspicouos place. If SS it wont take.

I've seen, handled, and bought a number of C&Bs that were purported to be stainless, and weren't. I've got a Uberti 1860 Army right now that was advertised as being stainless and is nothing more than a stripped and polished pistol. Looks a lot like this one.

FM

Henry4440 · February 17, 2009, 03:05:57 AM

Fingers McGee and Fox Creek Kid and to everyone,
i have to apologize.
Just called Hege Uberti here in Germany and they told me that you were right.
It's NOT A STAINLESS, just ' WHITE FINISH'.

The first stainless they made were from the 80s.

So, it's not a STAINLESS fluted Army 1860 but an ordinary fluted 1860 Army in white finish.

Now, i have to make a serious conversation with somebody.

Coffinmaker · February 17, 2009, 08:30:48 AM

Simple solution, have it "Hard Chromed" or nickel plated to match that "awful" Henry

Coffinmaker

shieldsmt · February 17, 2009, 09:00:48 AM

Pretty quick and non-marring way to tell stainless steel from carbon steel is put a magnet to it. It will readily stick to carbon steels and iron, won't with stainless.

Hoof Hearted · February 17, 2009, 09:57:13 AM

Quote from: Coffinmaker on February 17, 2009, 08:30:48 AM
Simple solution, have it "Hard Chromed" or nickel plated to match that "awful" Henry

Coffinmaker

Another option would be to have it flashed with copper then siver plated to match!

HH

Henry4440 · February 17, 2009, 11:16:40 AM

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 17, 2009, 09:57:13 AM
Another option would be to have it flashed with copper then siver plated to match!

HH

A silver plated full fluted Army 1860?

Never saw one before.

hunter58 · February 17, 2009, 11:23:19 AM

Not fluted, but here are two of my consecutive stainless 1860 2nd generation Colts.

Henry4440 · February 17, 2009, 11:32:27 AM

Are you sure?

Very nice looking twins.

hunter58 · February 17, 2009, 11:34:33 AM

Very sure ! These are two of around 1500 made.

Hoof Hearted · February 17, 2009, 04:51:14 PM

Quote from: Lonesome Henry on February 17, 2009, 11:16:40 AM
A silver plated full fluted Army 1860?

Never saw one before.

I guess I'll recite the obvious:

Lots of presentation pistols were silver plated as well as special orders and others. Most were embellished in other ways also, ie; engraving, grips, etcteras..........

HH

1860 · February 19, 2009, 03:26:31 AM

Hunter58,

Nice set of twins, looks like we have 4 of the 1500 covered, mine are consecutive and unfired. Do you know what they are worth?

1860

hunter58 · February 19, 2009, 08:11:15 AM

Not sure what they are worth. Market varies from time to time, but was offered late last year $1200.00.
Mine are a cased set are yours ?

1860 · February 19, 2009, 11:59:34 AM

Nope, they came with just the hang tags, and were pretty inexpensive after i dickered with the previous owner.

1200 sounds really low, especially for a cased set, unless maybe if you shoot them..? I look around @ gunbroker and such, the regular blued ones go for 5-600, sometimes a little more depending on what they are and how bad someone thinks they want it. And then there are sellers who start them out @ 900/ea., not in this economy... I don't have so much in them that they can't spend more time in the safe until things get better out there, and if things don't improve maybe I'll just see if they shoot as good as they look...

Anyone else have any idea of their worth?

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