Pale Rider Belly Gun

Bryan Austin · January 07, 2009, 10:14:37 PM

Was it really a 1863 Pocket or was it a Police?

Hoof Hearted · January 08, 2009, 12:00:39 AM

Nice pic

I have an original pocket and that gun, in his belt is NOT A POCKET!
The pocket is itty bitty. That pistol is a Police 5 shot 36 (or 38 converted and not factory converted).

HH

Coyote Hunter · January 08, 2009, 04:29:19 PM

It would be sweet if one of the gun makers copied the police. I'd by one in a heart beat. Uberti is making a that 2/3 size colt copy in .38 and selling good. I'd rather have a copy of an original. It'd make a good .38 conversion also.

Bryan Austin · January 08, 2009, 04:45:47 PM

Quote from: Coyote Hunter on January 08, 2009, 04:29:19 PM
It would be sweet if one of the gun makers copied the police. I'd by one in a heart beat. Uberti is making a that 2/3 size colt copy in .38 and selling good. I'd rather have a copy of an original. It'd make a good .38 conversion also.

I thought Pietta made a Police!

Coyote Hunter · January 10, 2009, 01:21:58 PM

I know they make a .36 Navy remmie but it seems to be the same size as the New Army, just in .36 cal. And they make the pocket. But I haven't seen a copy of the 5 shot .36 police like in the picture in his belt. I could be wrong. I tries to go to their site, but it was taking forever to load up.

Hoof Hearted · January 10, 2009, 01:40:19 PM

I believe the Pietta 36 is the same frame as the Army. Barr is Navy length (6.5 inches).
I think the Uberti 36 has a smaller frame than the Uberti Army and the shorter barrel.

No one makes a "Police" or a 5 shot repro.

I am working on a Euroarms to emulate a Police but it will be six shot.

HH

Bryan Austin · January 10, 2009, 02:01:35 PM

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 10, 2009, 01:40:19 PM
I believe the Pietta 36 is the same frame as the Army. Barr is Navy length (6.5 inches).
I think the Uberti 36 has a smaller frame than the Uberti Army and the shorter barrel.

No one makes a "Police" or a 5 shot repro.

I am working on a Euroarms to emulate a Police but it will be six shot.

HH

Got ya...now I understand!!!

Sir Charles deMouton-Black · January 10, 2009, 04:43:06 PM

HH; I'd love to see a repro of the Remington "BELT PISTOL". 6 shot, cal. .36., six inch barrel/ A bit smaller than the navy, and made in single and double action form and with conversion cylinders available.

How about just the single action type.

see; page 38, fig 13, of Rosa's book AGE OF THE GUNFIGHTER.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=jAmkAvoUKIEC&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&dq=Remington+Belt+Model&source=web&ots=44TLqkZwWU&sig=bvXj3COTmVmThCUGsOzeIr_jMfA&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result#PPA29,M1

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=120369794

Bryan Austin · January 17, 2009, 11:26:35 AM

Correct me if I am wrong. Are the trigger/hand screws inserted from the right side of the frame, on the Police, instead of the left as is all other Remington revolvers of this era?

Coyote Hunter · January 17, 2009, 01:39:04 PM

I really must thank you Jack for that picture. Thanks to you and wallie world, it will reside on my gunroom wall in a "BIG" way!

Hoof Hearted · January 17, 2009, 10:47:31 PM

Quote from: Savvy Jack on January 17, 2009, 11:26:35 AM
Correct me if I am wrong. Are the trigger/hand screws inserted from the right side of the frame, on the Police, instead of the left as is all other Remington revolvers of this era?

Good eyes!

The Police has the screws entering from the other side

You gotta wonder why (we're they smoking pot and saying watch this

).

HH

HappyTrigger · January 25, 2009, 10:22:06 PM

An article, "The 4 Guns of Josey Wales" in my Spring 2007 issue of Guns of the Old West says the gun in quesion was three different guns at different times in the movie - a cut-down Colt 1860 Army, a Pocket Navy, and a .38 Colt Pocket conversion. It's a great gun movie with lots of close-ups. He pulls a Richards-Mason 1860 Army conversion out of the fire, and Richards or Richards-Masons show up in a lot of people's hands in the movie. He had pistols in his belt (1860 Army), and belt holsters (1847 Colt Walkers), two pommel holsters on his horse (probably Walkers but never saw him pull one), a 1874 Sharps with scope on his horse. Doesn't matter that some of the guns weren't actually available in the timeframe of the movie. And some of the guns change from percussion to cartridge between different scenes. Great movie -- watched it again last night.

Bryan Austin · January 25, 2009, 10:32:39 PM

I have the Spring 06 with the info in it! Best info yet. Forget where I got the pic. Did I scan it? I'll have to check! One think about getting older. I know I was always better than I am now!