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Leo Tanner

#420
April 05, 2009, 08:58:19 PM
Quote from: Texas Lawdog on April 05, 2009, 08:47:38 PM
It was primarily used in the Pacific Theater, flown from bases built on the captured islands. It was responsible for dropping both A Bombs. It saw service in the Korean War as well.

I read they were planning to use it in Europe if things didn't end, but never had the chance.

Was the 509th composite that planned the A-bomb attacks.  Knew Enola was a 29, just never studied the Pacific theater that much.  Time ta crack the books. 
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Forty Rod

#421
April 06, 2009, 12:16:53 AM
Got Enola Gay at Hiroshima.  (If you ever visit japan you MUST see Peace Park in Hiroshima.) 

Can anyone name the Nagasaki bomber?
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Leo Tanner

#422
April 06, 2009, 12:55:09 AM
Box Car.  I think.
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

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Texas Lawdog

#423
April 06, 2009, 08:56:44 AM
Bockscar
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Forty Rod

#424
April 06, 2009, 09:51:48 AM
TL got it.
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Texas Lawdog

#425
April 06, 2009, 11:02:47 AM
I got to meet Col. Tibbits at the AirSho in Midland one year.
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Four-Eyed Buck

#426
April 06, 2009, 11:36:36 AM
The 29's were our first bombers with pressurized crew areas. Also the gun turrets were remotely controlled from those observation blisters on the sides and top.............Buck 8) ::)
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Leo Tanner

#427
April 06, 2009, 11:47:51 AM
Guess I went the phonetical route :-[
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

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Four-Eyed Buck

#428
April 06, 2009, 11:52:10 AM
That's okay, Leo, my wife is a phonetic speller too.............Buck 8) ::)
I might be slow, but I'm mostly accurate.....

Ozark Tracker

#429
April 06, 2009, 11:56:37 AM
well we can give Leo part credit,  if he hadn't heard it before, he wouldn't a been able to guess that close.  ;D
We done it for Dixie,  nothing else

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Leo Tanner

#430
April 06, 2009, 12:09:08 PM
Thank ya.  I used ta pass tests in school by listening ta the lectures an never doin the homework. 

Now that the quiz is over I looked inta it.  It's an innerestin story.  Nagasaki wasn't even the primary target and they hit it in a lightning storm.  The pilot was worried that the electicity would set off the bomb.  Talk about pucker factor.
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

religio SENIOR est exordium of scientia : tamen fossor contemno sapientia quod instruction.

Texas Lawdog

#431
April 06, 2009, 12:28:45 PM
Kokura had been their primary target, but Nagasaki was a large industrial area and a vital part of the Japanese war machinery.
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Leo Tanner

#432
April 06, 2009, 12:44:17 PM
Guess they were concerned about fuel too.  Lot of anti aircraft fire comin at em.  It's quite a story even compared with the Enola Gay. 
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

religio SENIOR est exordium of scientia : tamen fossor contemno sapientia quod instruction.

Delmonico

#433
April 06, 2009, 01:09:52 PM
That leads to a question I
ve been wonderin' , back when they were doin' nuculer tests, did they have any duds?  Also how long did you wait in case it was a hangfire?  And who had to go downrange and see what was wrong?
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Leo Tanner

#434
April 06, 2009, 01:18:15 PM
FDR had ordered the bombs to be built on demand...as needed.  Figgure they had a lot of contingent plans.  If the emporer hadn't have wised up there might not even be a Japan taday. 
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

religio SENIOR est exordium of scientia : tamen fossor contemno sapientia quod instruction.

Texas Lawdog

#435
April 06, 2009, 06:29:07 PM
Some veterans of the Baatan Death March might have wanted a couple more dropped.
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Ozark Tracker

#436
April 06, 2009, 06:35:29 PM
Had a fellow in our Lion's Club back home in Porter, Ok. was a survivor of the Baatan March.   never heard him say a word about it, he was a good friend of my Dad's,  Dad said as far as he knew he never spoke of it all his life.
We done it for Dixie,  nothing else

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Four-Eyed Buck

#437
April 06, 2009, 06:40:56 PM
Didn't want to remember, I bet. He probably saw some horrific stuff. My Dad never talked about his experiences either, he was in North Africa and participated in the Battle of The Kasserine Pass. he was also in Sicily and Italy. those were rough, learn as you went campaigns.............Buck 8) :o :-\
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Texas Lawdog

#438
April 06, 2009, 06:41:40 PM
My Dad had a Deputy that was a survivor and he definitely had opinions.
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Delmonico

#439
April 06, 2009, 06:42:46 PM
Guy I used to work with had a wife who was a Dr. over to the Vet's hospital, they also had a guy would come in, vetran of the Baatan Deth March.  They also had a Dr. there also of Japanese decent.  Guess after a bad incedent one time, they made sure the two did not meet up again.
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