Now this is a Henry!

Started by Dusty Morningwood, December 19, 2008, 08:53:28 AM

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Henry4440

Quote from: Dusty Morningwood on December 19, 2008, 08:53:28 AM
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=26265

A very cool early Navy Arms engraved Henry.

Beautiful wood.And the Buttstock Comb looks like it has an 90° rise behind the upper tang.Like the early Henry rifles.
Looks great.
;)

Branding Iron Bill

Nice.  Beautiful work of art all around.  The '73 style lever seems odd.  Did any of the original Henrys  have this style of lever?  I have any early Uberti '66 with that style of lever.  The safety nub served no purpose, so I shaved it off making it look more to specs.
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Henry4440

Quote from: Branding Iron Bill on December 19, 2008, 11:52:11 AM
  The '73 style lever seems odd.  Did any of the original Henrys  have this style of lever? 

NO.
Early-style rifles had no provision for retaining levers in closed position.Approximatley the first 400 rifles had this type of lever.The highest survey without a lever latch is sn.393.
Later levers have a spur attached on the upper rear portion.The first rifle in the survey having this lever latch bears sn.412 .
This type of lever retaining mechanism continued to the end of henry rifle production.


The Navy Arms Henry


and a first model '73 Winchesters.

a second model '73 Winchester.




Fox Creek Kid

Beautiful gun & gorgeous wood.

Hoof Hearted

Quote from: Branding Iron Bill on December 19, 2008, 11:52:11 AM
Nice.  Beautiful work of art all around.  The '73 style lever seems odd.  Did any of the original Henrys  have this style of lever?  I have any early Uberti '66 with that style of lever.  The safety nub served no purpose, so I shaved it off making it look more to specs.

BI Bill is referring to the "safety" tab at the front of the of the bow on the lever. As far as I know none of the Uberti Henrys had the grip safety like a '73.
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Branding Iron Bill

Thanks for clearifying that HH.  The levers without the safety tab give the rife an overall cleaner look.  IMHO.  That's why I removed it from my '66 lever, as it served no purpose at all.  I love the look of the first '73s that winchester made without the safety tabs.  As HH commented, I'm talking about the up front satety tab, not the rear retaining latch.
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Fox Creek Kid

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 20, 2008, 09:13:18 AM
BI Bill is referring to the "safety" tab at the front of the of the bow on the lever. As far as I know none of the Uberti Henrys had the grip safety like a '73.

Hoof Hearted is correct, but Uberti did make some early '66's like that with the spring disconnector under the lever "a la" the '73. I had a buddy who had one.

Hoof Hearted

Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on December 21, 2008, 12:20:43 AM
Hoof Hearted is correct, but Uberti did make some early '66's like that with the spring disconnector under the lever "a la" the '73. I had a buddy who had one.
Yea I had one too...........traded long ago!

Uberti also made the first Henry's with the "second" screw like an 1866.
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Flint

I have an early carbine 66 that had the lever safety and two piece trigger similar to, but not the same as the 73.  Since it wasn't the same, when the trigger/safety spring broke, (a long split spring similar to the sear/safety/trigger spring on a 1911), I converted the gun to the current original style with a Henry trigger and spring.  I had to mill the spring seat and screw hole in the bottom of the receiver.  The relacement parts for this version of the lever safety were not available, as Uberti had changed the design.  I'm sure other parts are different as well, I understand the early Uberti bolt was shorter.
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Fox Creek Kid

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 21, 2008, 10:17:36 AM...Uberti also made the first Henry's with the "second" screw like an 1866.


The first Henry rifles "made" by Navy Arms in the late 70's were made in the USA were they not? I had a buddy who had five or six of them and the day I showed him my new Allen Arms Uberti Henry in Spring '82 he literally cried. Maybe I'm wrong but I swear I had read that Val Forgett contracted some company in the USA for this short run. Some were even in original .44 Rimfire, but as mentioned, the screw through the sideplates, was atrocious. Stretching my memory back even further I think they sold new for $500, which then were REAL "sawmill" dollars. You could have bought a top shelf Weatherby for the same then.

Peter M. Eick

One advantage of living in Houston is I can go look at it in person.  A trip down to Collectors is high on my plans today to go see that one.

I was there 2 weeks ago and I looked over the Henry's they had in the display case.  Very nice original ones.  They also have a bunch of clones on the rack.  In particular they have a 1 of 1000 iron frame I almost bought when I got my iron frame from them last year.  I should really make them an offer on it someday.

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Uberti did make the 1860 without that safety tab.

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