Pale Rider?

[John William McCandles]

I know this has been ask but I couldn't answer with a search.
What model was the small pistol Clint (Preacher) used that he carried tucked into his belt?

Regards
JW

[Major 2]

63 pocket Remington

http://stores.brigadesutler.com/Detail.bok?no=351

[John William McCandles]

63 pocket Remington

http://stores.brigadesutler.com/Detail.bok?no=351
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Don't believe it was a '63 since it has a trigger guard.
I looked a bit and maybe it's a New Model Police or Navy??

JW

[Rusty Spurr]

New Model Police.
5 shot converted to 38 cal cartridge.
Looks like  3 3/4 " Barrel.

[John William McCandles]

New Model Police.
5 shot converted to 38 cal cartridge.
Looks like  3 3/4 " Barrel.

That's what I was thinking.
It sure would benice if someone made a copy now a days along with a drop in cylinder.
Most of the original conversions I have found are .38 rim fire.

JW

[Rusty Spurr]

Yeah, It is too bad.
This is the closest repro I could come up with.
31 pocket converted to 32 CF and homemade trigger guard.

[John William McCandles]

Yeah, It is too bad.
This is the closest repro I could come up with.
31 pocket converted to 32 CF and homemade trigger guard.

Rusty;
That's nice work.
I have a steel fraimed Pietta '63 Pocket maybe I'll try making a trigger guard and do a drop in conversion after all.
The only problem is the barrel is loose any ideas on a fix?

[Rusty Spurr]

What do you mean its loose?
If you turn the barrel into the frame, will it tighten?
Or is the tapped hole in the frame too big?

[John William McCandles]

What do you mean its loose?
If you turn the barrel into the frame, will it tighten?
Or is the tapped hole in the frame too big?

It will tighten if turned into the frame far enough. May have to take some off the threaded end so it will get tight, then figure what to do about the front sight.
I got it used.

JW

[Hoof Hearted]

It will tighten if turned into the frame far enough. May have to take some off the threaded end so it will get tight, then figure what to do about the front sight.
I got it used.

JW

Howdy!

Just remove the barrel, set the shoulder back a bit by flat filing (trial and error here by installing until you get the sight to line up at the top), then file the breech end of the barrel (SQUARE) (trial and error until the cylinder just barely fits). Then with feeler gauges set the gap to about 6 thousandths for Black Powder or 2 to 4 for smokeless. You can use your feeler gauge here to see if the breech end of the barrel is square to the cylinder face.

If you take a small mill file over to the belt sander you can sand the edge smooth so it doesn't cut into the round part of the barrel when you file the shoulder to set it back.

You may also need to slightly modify the catch on the rammer in order to get it to latch.

Go slow and be careful, lots of trial and fit

[John William McCandles]

Howdy!

Just remove the barrel, set the shoulder back a bit by flat filing (trial and error here by installing until you get the sight to line up at the top), then file the breech end of the barrel (SQUARE) (trial and error until the cylinder just barely fits). Then with feeler gauges set the gap to about 6 thousandths for Black Powder or 2 to 4 for smokeless. You can use your feeler gauge here to see if the breech end of the barrel is square to the cylinder face.

If you take a small mill file over to the belt sander you can sand the edge smooth so it doesn't cut into the round part of the barrel when you file the shoulder to set it back.

You may also need to slightly modify the catch on the rammer in order to get it to latch.

Go slow and be careful, lots of trial and fit

Thanks for the info. I'll give it a try.

JW

[Pettifogger]

Clean the threads, apply red loctite, problem solved.

[John William McCandles]

Rusty;
What type of brass did you mill the trigger guard out of?
Als did you make the cylinder your self or is it a drop in?

Thanks.
JW

[John William McCandles]

Clean the threads, apply red loctite, problem solved.

Thought about that also and may try that first.

JW

[Hoof Hearted]

Thought about that also and may try that first.

JW

If, when tight it is just a little past TDC, this would work (as long as you don't get the pistol real hot shooting BP). I have done this before with mixed results. Lock tight releases with heat.

Cheap as the gun is you might clean well with brake cleaner and JB weld. Clean up while soft with Carb Cleaner. Then oil well when set..........

[Major 2]

That's what I was thinking.
It sure would benice if someone made a copy now a days along with a drop in cylinder.
Most of the original conversions I have found are .38 rim fire.

JW

not to be argumentitive  but speaking to Scott Nifong on location in DC (second unit) about 10 years ago
we were briefly discusing pre production of G&G.
I was looking for Star revolvers , in passing he mentions the pocket pistol as a Remington 63 and used 32 blanks.

If my memory, serves me...it usually does  however, there is a very good photo in Dennis Adlers book
Matallic Carartridge Conversions, with the gun in Eastwood belt, viewing that photo , I also say it's a 3 1/2"  Police model.

[John William McCandles]

not to be argumentitive  but speaking to Scott Nifong on location in DC (second unit) about 10 years ago
we were briefly discusing pre production of G&G.
I was looking for Star revolvers , in passing he mentions the pocket pistol as a Remington 63 and used 32 blanks.

If my memory, serves me...it usually does  however, there is a very good photo in Dennis Adlers book
Matallic Carartridge Conversions, with the gun in Eastwood belt, viewing that photo , I also say it's a 3 1/2"  Police model.

Major 2
There are some pictures of Clints rig on the SCORRS site.
If it was a '63 pocket they put a trigger guard on it much like the one Rusty Spurrs built and has posted pictures here on this thread.

JW

[Major 2]

I agree.... Millington might have done it or even Howell... I've only seen PR once or twice so I was going by what I remember and what Scott said.
Worked with Scott briefly on Deep Impact...different dept.s , though and left to prep End of Innocence & later G&G.

Both the the Remington police and the 63 pocket model were first offered in 1863, as far as I know only the pocket model
is or was ever offered as a replica

[John William McCandles]

I've watched PR a number of times one of my favorite Clint westerns.
It would be nice if Uberti would make a Police and real Navy model.
I have a steel framed pocket model I'm going to do a trigger guard and drop in cylinder on as soon as it warms up enough to work in my shop.

Regards
JW

[Bull Schmitt]

If the barrel rotates a little past TDC you could try a thin washer as a shim between the frame and the barrel. The washer could be cut from some shim stock.