Gunfightered my Remmys

[Dalton Masterson]

Last month at our local shoot, I used my 58s in Gunfighter class. Lotsa fun, no problems with binding or caps, BUT, when I got my hand too close, the right pistol blew bits of cap and soot into my left palm. OUCH. I am now breaking in a pair of deerskin gloves to wear, just in case I didnt learn my lesson the first time.
Just a warning to all that try gunfighter and cap and ball.

ALSO, I shoot 2 Piettas, a 5 1/2" in the left hand, and a 8" in the right. The 8" tends to blacken the top of my trigger finger. Enough that after a big shoot, the finger is sore. Any idea of the cause? My others dont do that.
Thanks. DM

[Buffalow Red]

i been gunfighting my 58 remys & love  it.
i usely do have some cap scratches but its a blast

[GunClick Rick]

 If i had a remmie i might try it

[Dalton Masterson]

Aww, heck. Try it with Colts too. Starrs, whatever ya got! Nothin like gunfightin with the "correct" pistolas.
DM

[Daniel Nighteyes]

Ya know, there's a time when conversion cylinders are just the thing...

I don't "gunfighter" my '58s, but I do "Double Duelist" them.  Sorta like the same song but different verse.

[Dalton Masterson]

Yep, Double Duelist is my normal mode of operation.

I see you are also a SUDDS member, Daniel. Cool!!!

DM

[Marshal Will Wingam]

ALSO, I shoot 2 Piettas, a 5 1/2" in the left hand, and a 8" in the right. The 8" tends to blacken the top of my trigger finger. Enough that after a big shoot, the finger is sore. Any idea of the cause? My others dont do that.

The trigger guard is brass on the Remmies. The 8 " will have more weight on the muzzle pulling down on your forefinger. Sounds like you are holding a lot of the weight with that finger. I have two that I shoot regularly. One has a narrower grip and is easier to hold. I used to get a black finger until I re-shaped the grips (took some off to match the other pistol). You may want to look into that. If you just want to eliminate the black, a coat of laquer will cure that for a fairly long time until you wear through it. Then you can coat it again. Another consideration is that you may have a sharp edge on the trigger guard where the trigger comes through. Perhaps a de-burring would help idf that's the case.

Hope this helps.

[Dalton Masterson]

Thanks Marshall. Its definately a powder burn on the ol finger, not a burr or sharp edge.
Are you saying to laquer my finger???
I have others 8" and they dont do this, so it could be a grip related issue. It is the whitish micarta grips that Cabelas had on some for awhile.
The blackfinger is my index finger from the first knuckle to the 2nd. The part not curved when you hold the gun.
Thanks. DM

[Marshal Will Wingam]

Thanks Marshall. Its definately a powder burn on the ol finger, not a burr or sharp edge.
Are you saying to laquer my finger???
I have others 8" and they dont do this, so it could be a grip related issue. It is the whitish micarta grips that Cabelas had on some for awhile.
The blackfinger is my index finger from the first knuckle to the 2nd. The part not curved when you hold the gun.

That does sound like a BBQ job. Definitely laquer your finger. That's not what I was having at all. I was getting a black finger from rubbing on the brass inside the trigger guard. Be sure to post if you figure it out. That's mighty curious.

[Daniel Nighteyes]

I see you are also a SUDDS member, Daniel. Cool!!!

DM

Not only that, but I'm Member Number One in SoBAD (Society of Bass-Ackward Duelists)!   At last count there are about 30 of us across the country who wear our pistolas butt-forward (or bass-ackward) and use various means to draw 'em.

We now return you to the regularly-scheduled thread...

[Dalton Masterson]

Well heck, I do that anytime Im not at the range. When hunting, it is always twist draw on my right side, as I carry my rifle on the left shoulder barrel down. The butt forward lets me sit down without screwing with a pistol butt, and I can still pull it if needed.
I usually wear my Starrs butt forward at matches, but not when shooting. I should start doing that tho.
DM

[Montana Slim]

Your blackened finger is ok...My NM Remmington (also a Pietta) would burn a hole into your finger.
This is a result of fire coming back through the nipple, down the hammer channel, through the trigger opening and to your finger.

Now, its likely due to enlarged hole in the nipple. In your case, cheezy factory nips.
In my revolver, it's probably cause they've burned out a bit from 30+ years of use.

Now, my gun works pretty reliable and I'm cheep.....so, I pack the insides of the gun with white lithum grease which stops the flame progression to my finger. Problem solved (for now)..

Regards,
Slim

[Dalton Masterson]

Umm, it does it with the cheezy factory nipples, AND the Treso nipples that are on it now. And its the not the part of my finger touching the trigger, its the part alongside the grip, that is getting burnt. Interesting issue with yours tho.
DM

[Willie Dixon]

I'm looking forward to first dueling with my remmies after I get them "finished" since now that's what I'm puchasing first.  I couldn't believe the value of these guns!  I'm an old pirate flint-lock kind of guy, so these cap'n revolver setups are high-tech to me! LOL

anyways, I wanted to ask in your humble opinions which barrel lengths are good for gunfighter and duelist style shootin'?
for the price I could pick up one of each size in comparison to nice SAAs!

I've always liked the Remingtons, and after holding a few, I'm really excited to work on these and let them become the labors of love they should be.

[Dalton Masterson]

Willie, I am using a 5 1/2" in the left hand, and a 7 1/2" (8") in the right hand. Its just what I have at the moment. I like the feel of the 5 1/2" a lot, and am going to find another short one to match. DM

[Willie Dixon]

sweet.  Right now, since thanks to Tombstone I really like the longer barrels, I'm trying to decide if I get the "pretty" bronze 8" and 12" models or the business all Iron 5 1/2" models.  I hear the bronze wears out and mis-aligns after a while, any truth to that, and is there a way to strengthen it?

thanks again for your guys help

[Dalton Masterson]

I would stick with the steel versions, because inevitably you will want to get a cartridge conversion for it some day.
I had a brass framed Colt that died a horrific death, and will never suggest brass for anyone now. That said, the Remington is a stronger design than the Colt, and if its in a .36 cal, might not be too bad in brass.
Good luck. DM

[Willie Dixon]

thanks for that info.
actually for the price, I don't mind buying the brass and the steel versions, I was just trying to figure out which set to get first, and thanks to your help, now I know!  I kinda felt that way too... you know, practical first, pretty second... but eh, I can dream.

Yeah, I have a collector's itch right now for the Remmies and I not only have permission from my girlfriend, but she wants a set too!

[Dalton Masterson]

AAH, the best thing in the world is going to a match and shooting all day long with your honey. Get her involved, and keep it fun for her. Good luck. DM

[G. Harbinger]

On the BBQ finger -  ifthe nipples are'nt burnt out, perhaps you might try cutting back on the amount of powder.  Could be yer shooting hotter than ya need, and excess pressure is blowing back thru the frame? (Might also spatter cap fragments more than necessary)
Just guessin'.
G. Harbinger