John Wesley Hardin

[Texas Lawdog]

John Wesley had a degree from the "School of Hard Knocks" AKA  the Texas Department of Corrections, Huntsville Texas.    Del, I just wish I had a room big enough for 500 books, I would have more room to Hang my Buck Taylor prints.

[Stillwater]

John Wesley had a degree from the "School of Hard Knocks" AKA  the Texas Department of Corrections, Huntsville Texas.    Del, I just wish I had a room big enough for 500 books, I would have more room to Hang my Buck Taylor prints.

There isn't much room left for books any more. The books shelves are full, there are books stacked everywhere.

Bill

[Delmonico]

I have some in both attics and some at the trailer at the farm.

Even got a history book that tells us Grover got elected to a second term after he left office, no mention of the next one or the Spanish American War.

[Drayton Calhoun]

Odd how we can get so wound up over something or someone who lived 120-150 years ago...no criticism intended, I am as bad or worse than anyone else about it. BUT before we label someone as psychotic or a mad dog killer, we have to remember what those times were like. As much as Roy and Gene and all the rest would have us believe otherwise, it was a rough time and land. Much of the time the only law was what you carried on your hip. The fact that the most brutal war this country has seen to date had just ended didn't help much.

[Delmonico]

And sometimes, much worse.

Sorry Kid.

Books

Yeah, but not on the forum, we have moderators ya know.

[Drayton Calhoun]

It sucks. About as historicaly accurate as Walt Disney's Cinderella is an accurate depiction of the life and times of Marie Anttoinett.

Let's not forget 'Hidalgo' entertaining, quite, True Story, well, not quite...

[Dead I]

Joey, The only movie that I know is called "The Lawless Breed" made in 1952 starring Rock Hudson.

o'l Rock was a hard charger wasn't he.

[Doc Cuervo]

Joey, The only movie that I know is called "The Lawless Breed" made in 1952 starring Rock Hudson.

.

And it is a bout as accurate as Steam Boat Willy staring Mickey Mouse

[Doc Cuervo]

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Dee Brown wrote a book called "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee." This book was a gross plagurization of Robert I. Wellmans book, "Indian Wars of the West". The book "Indians Wars of the West," Was the compilation of his two early works, "Death on Horse back," and "Death on the Prairie."

Dee Brown wrote that the soldiers started firing at the Indians first. That is not true. The soldiers were confiscating firearms, when a minor subchief named Yellow Bird, started firing at the soldiers.

Does that prove you can trust everything written in a book?

Before something is to be believed, it needs to have hard historical evidence, to back it up. Historians all put their bias into their work. Dee Brown in particula

Bill
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Finally, someone else who knows Dee Brown for the liying plagerizing fraud that he is.

[Stillwater]

Finally, someone else who knows Dee Brown for the lying, plagerizing fraud, that he is.

Having read works by Brown, I find it easy to agree with you. However, there are a couple of people on this board who might take extreme umbrage at our opinions of old man Brown...

It's rumored that one of these people carrys a scalping knife...!

Bill

[Dead I]

Hardin was a psychopathic killer. Period. The Metz book pretty much sums this up. However, he was NOT the most feared gunman in the Old West. That title probably goes to Jim Currie, the only man Hickock said he feared. 

Hardin liked to kill non-whites.   If I understand him correctly, if he was riding along and spied a black or Hispanic he'd just ride up and kill him.  I read he killed 40 men!  I agree, therefore; that he must have been psychopathic killer.  I don't think he was a very good lawyer.  Would you hire him? 

[Doc Cuervo]

Having read works by Brown, I find it easy to agree with you. However, there are a couple of people on this board who might take extreme umbrage at our opinions of old man Brown...

It's rumored that one of these people carrys a scalping knife...!

Bill

Well, if they PM me I'll send them my address and...GAME ON!

[Doc Cuervo]

Hardin liked to kill non-whites.   If I understand him correctly, if he was riding along and spied a black or Hispanic he'd just ride up and kill him.  I read he killed 40 men!  I agree, therefore; that he must have been psychopathic killer.  I don't think he was a very good lawyer.  Would you hire him? 

That would have made him a very busy man the last year or so of his life in El Paso, which was about 75% Mexican.He wouldn't have had time for anything else but shooting mexicans.

[Stillwater]

Hardin was a psychopathic killer. Period. The Metz book pretty much sums this up. However, he was NOT the most feared gunman in the Old West. That title probably goes to Jim Currie, the only man Hickock said he feared. 

Hardin did not kill forty men, although urban legend says he killed forty-six... A more accurate account is twenty-six...!

Not having lived around John Wesley Hardin, or James Butler Hickock I wouldn't know who they feared, or who was the best gunman in the old west.

While I like Leon Clair Metzs' books, I don't think he could answer the above question with any certainty either.

Since neither of us are mental health scientists, I don't think anyone alive today can say Hardin was a psychopath, or a sociopath.

Bill