Did Pietta make a dragoon?

[Bow View Haymaker]

did Pietta ever or do they still make a 1848 colt Dragoon copy?
Or are the only ones made by uberti?
I am partial to pietta for some reason.
And also are there comversions available fort he dragoon? 
I heard them once called the colt canon and As duvall said in open range, "I fancy a gun with some heft to it"

[swordboy]

could have swore that they did and I'm certain cabela's carried it but I just checked the web site and ...... it ain't there ....... they got the walker if that is at least close

[Steel Horse Bailey]

I can't speak for Pietta back past 20 years or so, but no; only Uberti has made Dragoons, (and Walkers) as far as I have found.

I think cylinders for Dragoons are recently available, but I'm not sure whether Kirst or R&D - or BOTH - make them.  It took a while for them to make them for the open-top Colt design - as opposed to the closed-frame Remington (stronger) style.

[swordboy]

don't know who makes it but it's a walker and it's at cadela's

[Steel Horse Bailey]

don't know who makes it but it's a walker and it's at cadela's

Uberti.

[swordboy]

wow......  how could you tell .....

well I found a walker if your looking (sorry not a pietta)




http://www.possibleshop.com/uberti.htm

[Pettifogger]

I don't ever recall seeing a Pietta marked Dragoon.  ASM made some and made Walkers as well.  I bought a Cabellas Walker last year and it was a Uberti.

[Major 2]

I can't speak for Pietta back past 20 years or so, but no; only Uberti has made Dragoons, (and Walkers) as far as I have found.

I think cylinders for Dragoons are recently available, but I'm not sure whether Kirst or R&D - or BOTH - make them.  It took a while for them to make them for the open-top Colt design - as opposed to the closed-frame Remington (stronger) style.

Pietta made Dragoon ...no

But they made Pattersons as well as the 60 Army , 51 & 61 Navy  ( Starr , Le Mat, Remy's & Spiller & Burr)

Both Uberti (now) & ASM  did make the Dragoon & Walker

The Walker Cabela's sells is a Uberti

and R&D does offer a Drop in for both the Dragoon & Walker ... However be sure which Dragoon you getting the Conversion

1st.models have oval Walker style bolt stops and 2nd & 3rd Models have Rectangles


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Uh Oh... Pettifogger you responded while I typed   

[Alabama]

The only Dragoon Cabelas ever offered was the Colt Signature Series , 3rd model Dragoon , and this is it and is where I bought it too for that matter. Which is of UBERTI Parts , finished here in the USA by Colt Black Powder Company . Now defunked and thank God , they sucked as a company and there service was terrible too . Nice guns though !!!! Cabelas also offered Accessories packages for these Colts, flask, nipple wrench , original type blued Colt cap tin , bullet mold , etc , all engraved with Samuals name as was the gun . Nice stuff . I bought both , and an 51 Navy too back in the way back machine days . And no those are not Colt grips or Uberti , those are mine , Canary wood . Pietta never made these guns , wish they would now though , although Ubertis version is very nice, I have one of those too . Third pic .




Uberti is the second third and forth gun in this arsenal



Alabama

[Dalton Masterson]

Hey BowView, are you going to Flatwater this weekend in Grand Island? I am thinking I will shoot cap and ball, and if you want can take my Walker along for you to play with.

DM

[Bow View Haymaker]

Wow ,
I go and try to work for a few hours and all my questions are answered.

If I were to get a BIG revolver I think I wold prefer the dragoon over the Walker due to the improvments such as the loading lever latch.  (I've seen guys get hung up whenthe lever drops in the middle of a firing string.)

Or I might think about an 1860 as it wold probably be closer in size to my remington new army.

Just never had anything of the colt open top design and thought it might be ok to try. 
I could either shot it with a conversiion along with my pietta 73SAA or go old school and put the CB cylinder back in the Reimington.  Just i the dreaming and If I win the lottery stages right now.  Thaks again for the great info.

DM
I might be at flat ater on Sunday but iI'll probably shoot modern with the .38's.
I might have some leather work to send with you though. 

[Dalton Masterson]

OK. If you go, send me a note, and I will pack some of each. You can try them out and see what you like. I got a bunch of them,  but no Dragoon.
DM

[Alabama]

FYI Bow View Haymaker ,

Just for your info , and when you hit the Lotto ( remember your freinds , me !  ) , but Dixie Gun Works currently has Uberti 1st Model Dragoon for $299 on Sale , a good bargain and a good example of what the Dragoon revolvers were becomming in there run of the four different models , The Whitneyville , 1st , 2nd , and finally 3rd Model , with round trigger guard .
I definately highly recommend any of the Uberti Dragoons being produced recently , they are "TOP of The Line" revolvers and smooth as silk in finish and function . The Two Walkers and Dragoon I bought all have fabulous triggers right out of the box and not a real flaw on any of them , they are absolutely fine guns  And the best part , they are WARTHOG in the extreme !
I really think you " NEED " one , so tell the wife I told you it would be ok , alright  If she actually buys that dribble , send me one too for enabling your addiction to continue today , okeedokkeeee  But seriously, you won't regret owning one or two or three of them , or the Walker , they are very cool too .    The 1860 your thinking about as a choice is no comparison in FUN FACTOR with the big Horse Pistols . The 1860 (?) Not even close . You''ll understand that when you have two in your hands going off simultaniously with 50 or 60 grains of 2ff chambered up in them . You want to talk ROLLING THUNDER !!!!!!
Enjoy ....

Alabama

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Wow ,
I go and try to work for a few hours and all my questions are answered.

If I were to get a BIG revolver I think I wold prefer the Dragoon over the Walker due to the improvements such as the loading lever latch.  (I've seen guys get hung up when the lever drops in the middle of a firing string.)

Or I might think about an 1860 as it wold probably be closer in size to my Remington New Army.

Just never had anything of the colt open top design and thought it might be ok to try. 
I could either shot it with a conversion along with my Pietta 73SAA or go old school and put the CB cylinder back in the Remington.  Just ... dreaming - and If I win the lottery stages right now.  Thanks again for the great info.

Howdy!

IF you get a Dragoon (1st or 2nd [I think] Model) that has the original latch design, you can STILL blow the loading lever down with a hefty charge.  That's why Colt went to the style that is on their 1851s, 1860/61s/62s, etc. that we see most commonly.  I shoot my Dragoon with (mostly) a 42 gr. or so charge of 3f.  At 45 grs. or higher, (which is still within the design limits - 50 grs. - of a Dragoon) it will still produce enough recoil to "overcome" the stock latch spring!  (Yes - for all you who say "Bailey - you don't NEED a 42 gr. charge; it's wasteful for CAS shooting."  I KNOW!  But #1 - I like it, and #2 - more importantly, mine has to have a MINIMUM of 35 grs. of powder to keep from having an airspace under the ball.  I'd have to add some material (JB Weld, welded, etc.) to the ball rammer to push the ball further down onto the powder.  My Dragoon is a 2nd Gen. Colt 1st Model, so I can't say what one marked "Uberti" would do.  (Since Uberti had a hand in the Colt guns, I'll bet it's pretty much the same.)

FYI Bow View Haymaker ,
The 1860 you're thinking about as a choice is no comparison in FUN FACTOR with the big Horse Pistols . The 1860 (?) Not even close. You'll understand that when you have two in your hands going off simultaneously with 50 or 60 grains of 2ff chambered up in them . You want to talk ROLLING THUNDER !!!!!!
Enjoy ....

Alabama

I unnerstand whut Al-A-Bammie is sayin' here, but I sure have as much fun shootin' MY 1860 as I do my Dragoon!  But that's me!  And I get a MINIMUM of 35 grs. of 3f in my 1860.  (Uberti made; marked "Iver Johnson"   Not many of 'em around.)


By the way, Like Alabama said, the Dixie price of $299 is a great price.  I bet you'll never be disappointed if ya get one!

[Major 2]

there is no arguing # 1 "You like it " 


''... #2 - more importantly, mine has to have a MINIMUM of 35 grs. of powder to keep from having an airspace under the ball.  I'd have to add some material (JB Weld, welded, etc.) to the ball rammer to push the ball further down onto the powder."

Here though ..Cornmeal or grits as a filler is your friend

[Bow View Haymaker]

Ya.alll reallly got me to thinkin know and that can be dangerouse.
I'm agoing to kep my eye open for either a dragoon or 1860 (sorry but I think the 51navy grip would be tosmall for me)

DM  I may justbringteh cB cylinder forthe remington and shoot it in the main match..

My firrst real CAS match I shot the rington in CB andmy ruger blackhawk.quiet a combo.

[Steel Horse Bailey]

there is no arguing # 1 "You like it " 

''... #2 - more importantly, mine has to have a MINIMUM of 35 grs. of powder to keep from having an airspace under the ball.  I'd have to add some material (JB Weld, welded, etc.) to the ball rammer to push the ball further down onto the powder."

Here though ..Cornmeal or grits as a filler is your friend

Absolutely, Major!

But I like more powder!  Some would call it a personality/character fault.

[Dalton Masterson]

Mo powder mo better, I always say!
Bow View, I will bring along enough for you to try what you want to. Even got a spare Remmy if ya want to use it.

DM

[Paladin UK]

Fer SHB..........

But I like more powder!  Some would call it a personality/character fault.

Nah, dont you listen to em,`taint nothin like that pard............... its personality/character BUILDING!!!

Paladin (Whats with SHB on this here subject  ) UK

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Fer SHB..........

Nah, dont you listen to em,`taint nothin like that pard............... its personality/character BUILDING!!!

Paladin (Whats with SHB on this here subject  ) UK