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Steel Horse Bailey

I didn't know that 8 ga was considered a "punt gun."  I thought that was the term they used for the 2 and 4 ga guns.  You know, the REAL biggies that had to be mounted to the bow of a boat or something like that.

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Trinity

Quote from: Ottawa Creek Bill on February 13, 2009, 09:09:29 AM
I noticed that at the end of the movie during the commentary of the cast and crew, the armorer stated the eight gauge punt gun that Viggo Mortensin used was a new gun built on a 12 gauge receiver made to fire 12 gauge blanks.....they built two of them....now that gets me to thinking...I wonder if I could...............................................................yeah I probably could!

Bill
Quote from: Steel Horse Bailey on February 14, 2009, 02:18:06 PM
I didn't know that 8 ga was considered a "punt gun."  I thought that was the term they used for the 2 and 4 ga guns.  You know, the REAL biggies that had to be mounted to the bow of a boat or something like that.

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SHB, I was thinking the same thing when I saw that.  I'm no expert, so I guess I learned something too. :-\ ???
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Leo Tanner

You guys er right, punt guns had a two inch bore or larger.  For what it's worth...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun
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Ottawa Creek Bill

All I know guys, is the gunsmith/armorer that built the gun....called it a punt gun. You can catch this at the end of the movie in the extras. Ed Harris also said there may be a directors cut in the future.

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Sod Buster

Quote from: Ottawa Creek Bill on February 15, 2009, 03:26:31 PM
Ed Harris also said there may be a directors cut in the future.

I was thinking the same thing after watching the deleted scenes.  Some of them should have been left in IMHO.
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Leo Tanner

That happens with a lot of movies.  The reasons they cut the scenes usualy has nothing to do with the scene's merit.  It's gotta be the hardest part of a directors job.  I love those special directors editions where ya get ta see the film as God intended it.
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Trinity

I always love it when they release the director's cut less than a year after the theatrical version was released.  Hmmm.  Money grubbing?
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Leo Tanner

Quote from: Trinity on February 15, 2009, 06:10:42 PM
I always love it when they release the director's cut less than a year after the theatrical version was released.  Hmmm.  Money grubbing?

On one side of it I'd agree, but on another, there are folks out there that want it just the way it was in the theater, so I see a reason fer both releases.  Kinda what happened with Star Wars, some folks thought all the additional stuff was cool, others called it downright blasphemy.  They almost came out of there parents basements an had a riot ;D
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     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

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Trinity

I'm one of those that liked the original theatrical release versions.  All the new stuff was, well... like I said before... Money grubbing.
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Leo Tanner

Han shot first ;D

Sorry fer the side track there.
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     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

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Trinity

Wait, are you one of the basement people you were talking about earlier? :o :o
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John Smith

I have read several posts about the movie here, and on other sites.  Many of them disparage Renee Zellweger as Mrs. French.  Remember she is an actor (actress?) and I thought she did a great job.  I've read the book, and the interaction between Cole and Hitch is great.  I liked the detail as to a western town right down to the "horse apples" in the street.  I enjoyed the mannerism of the characters and how they brought the story along.  "Open Range" or "Crossfire Trail" it's not but I really enjoyed it.

Leo Tanner

Quote from: Trinity on February 15, 2009, 07:48:53 PM
Wait, are you one of the basement people you were talking about earlier? :o :o

No, just an incurable smarta$$ ::)

As far as Zellwegger goes, I thought she did a good job as an actress being exactly what she was supposed to be.  It's gotta be a hard role to take, knowing that your character is going to leave a bad taste in everyones mouth.  She played it to the nines, I've met a few like her.
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"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

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Tjackstephens

I too thought some of the sences should have been left in. More so the one where the mining engineer and his wife were killed. Then there would have been no doubt why the marshall and his two deputies when out to arrest Bragg's men. But all in all I really llike the movie and its details to dress, weapons, manners, and the way things and people were. One movie that was quite good on the clothes, weapons, leather, and the way people were was the Steve McQueen movie Tom Horn. That was still in the Hollywood western days. TJ
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Marshal Deadwood

Isn't Ed Harris some kinda anti-firearm 'person' ? Thought I read that sometime back,,,somewheres.

IF Harris is anti-firearm (and I'm not 100% sure he is) it would have been kewl if Mortensen had shot his a&& with the 8guage and said 'OOPS!'  :(

MD

Ottawa Creek Bill

Quote from: Marshal Deadwood on February 15, 2009, 10:51:36 PM
Isn't Ed Harris some kinda anti-firearm 'person' ? Thought I read that sometime back,,,somewheres.

IF Harris is anti-firearm (and I'm not 100% sure he is) it would have been kewl if Mortensen had shot his a&& with the 8guage and said 'OOPS!'  :(

MD

Mike....I think you are right about Ed Harris....but if his partner would have shot him...he wouldn't have got a paycheck.

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Marshal Deadwood

It was a good movie, Bill. I loved the duel at the end.  Each time I've seen it,,,Viggo just hits my image of what Wild Bill woulda looked like...classic determined stance,,,me or your mister,,lets get the shootin' underway !

Take care hoss,
Mike

Dutch Limbach

Quote from: Marshal Deadwood on February 15, 2009, 10:51:36 PM
Isn't Ed Harris some kinda anti-firearm 'person' ? Thought I read that sometime back,,,somewheres.

IF Harris is anti-firearm (and I'm not 100% sure he is) it would have been kewl if Mortensen had shot his a&& with the 8guage and said 'OOPS!'  :(

MD

Neither Harris or Mortensen are on the NRA's 19 page "Black List".
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Fox Creek Kid

Ed Harris is a certified Left Wing "celebutard". Want proof?

http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Ed_Harris.php

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Willie Dixon

It'd be great if there was a director's cut.  And I also agree that Renee did a great job making the most of a part that most people will admonish.  I know plenty of girls that are like her character, and you know what, I dated one for six years... she almost got me too.  Thanks to some friends, it's all over now!
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