What's your favorite Western?

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Stillwater

Quote from: Daniel Nighteyes on February 25, 2010, 08:51:48 PM
Nor can I feel any sorrow for a Refumblican.

Okay, now that we've called each other names, can we get back to the topic of this thread?  :)

Your trying hard to start something, but it's not working...

I am neither Democrat, or Republican, I'm a very independent voter.

Now let's stop this nonsense and get back to the subject at hand...!

Bill

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

Quote from: Daniel Nighteyes on February 25, 2010, 08:51:48 PM

Okay, now that we've called each other names, can we get back to the topic of this thread?  :)

And the topic is;   FANTASY!     Fantasy on film, that is.

P.S.;  Last night I took a break from Olympic coverage to watch a good part of THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE.  Even though I use a quote from it below my posts, I'd never seen more than clips, just enough to get the gist of it.  Last night I saw enough to get a good appreciation for the story.  It now goes on my list of great westerns.

How about THE THREE GODFATHERS, with John Wayne.  (His was the 3rd re-make; - apparently)
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yeti76620

To me without a doubt it's the Shootist...it's hard to pick one of so many but "The Duke" is King...

Tom Selleck, Sam Elliott, Robert Duvall on the more modern movies are great then there's the "classics"...Oh I'm a little kid with a free hand in a chocolate store.....but it's the Shootist I stop and stare at like a 50lb Hershey bar!    ;D ;D ;D

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But that Ron Howard is such a LIB!!!   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Read the book (no pun intended) the end will shock you.
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Texas Lawdog

John Wayne in "The Searchers". He should have received an Oscar. I've only seen bits an pieces of "The Shootist". I guess, becaues it was his last picture.
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Sir Charles deMouton-Black

The SEARCHERS is a great film, and highly regarded.

IMHO it would have been a classic if more attention had been paid to period correct arms & equipment.  This one begs for a re-make because of it.
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Stillwater

Quote from: Sir Charles deMouton-Black on February 26, 2010, 04:38:01 PM
The SEARCHERS is a great film, and highly regarded.

IMHO it would have been a classic if more attention had been paid to period correct arms & equipment.  This one begs for a re-make because of it.

I'll vote for a remake of "The Searchers," with authentic firearms and equipment myself.

I would eliminate one scene and change another.

The scene I would eliminate from "The Searchers," was the one where John Waye is shooting at a herd of buffalo, because he was angry at the Indians. Any westerner would have known the 1892 Winchester he was using, would not have any effect on a buffalo at the range he was shooting at them.

The scene I would change is the scene where John Wayne is using Jeffry Hunter as bait, for the bad guys he knows are coming to get them. That scene was filmed on a movie set, and was very obviously shot indoors. If the scene would have been shot in the outdoors, it would have looked so much better.

"The Shootist," is one of my all time favorite movies. However, the scene between John Wayne and Sherrie North, as his past girl friend, needs to be eliminated, or redone much better. The scene looked so out of place, such as a piece of chewing gum stuck on a bedpost. The continuity of that scene, with the rest of the movie, was terrible.

"The Searchers" and "The Shootist" are classic Western movies, in my opinion...!

Bill

WaddWatsonEllis

Although I have already voted for my favorite (The Wonderful Country,  Robert Mitchum/Julie London), my all time favorite Duke movie has to be The Shootist ....

This is the most human role I have ever seen the Duke play. He is John Wayne playing John Wayne ...

I got the feeling through the whole film that, given half a chance, this was how John Wayne would have liked to end his life.

What a shame he was not granted such a choice.

http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi3813670937/

This trailer is well worth the wait for it to come up ...

In the description of the movie, IMDB states,

"A dying gunfighter spends his last days looking for a way to die with a minimum of pain and a maximum of dignity. " Nuff said.
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"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
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Stillwater

I just got the Conagher dvd, and watched it this afternoon.

What a great movie. My wife really loved it.

I couldn't pick it apart very much. As far as I am concerned, it was one great movie.

For once their period clothing looked pretty good, the firearms were correct for the era.

Bill

Daniel Nighteyes

Quote from: Sir Charles deMouton-Black on February 26, 2010, 09:43:44 AM

How about THE THREE GODFATHERS, with John Wayne.  (His was the 3rd re-make; - apparently)

I really enjoyed it; just the kind of humor one occasionally finds in a John Wayne movie.  Another one with the same general type of humor -- sorta slapstick, sorta not -- is McClintock!  John Wayne, Maureen O'Hara, and many more "name" actors.  I especially liked the free-for-all in the mud... ;D

Leo Tanner

McClintock was a good one.  They even made sure to pronounce it right in the movie.

As far as the Shootist goes, the Duke knew he was dying when he made it.  Prolly why he played the part so well.  In the book it's the kid that finishes him off in the end.
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

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Texas Lawdog

Leo, You are prolly right about that movie.
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Leo Tanner

Not that it's anythig to be be proud of Tex but i really talk that way.  Ask Del.
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

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kcub

No "Gunfight at the OK Corral"?
With Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas?

I'll also throw out "The Proposition".  I know its 19th century Australia, but its a western, same as Quigley.

The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford is a great movie and 95% historically accurate.
This is a 2 and half hour movie and is maybe a half hour too long.

But having said that, it will manage to conjure up similarly memorable images of 
the obsession of Scorcese's "Taxi Driver",
the dementia of Cormac McCarthy's "Blood Meridian",
the curious juxtaposition between a beautiful snowy winter backdrop,
  the relationship between brothers, the unpredictable acts of desperation
  born of a complexity of dark emotions such as jealousy, fear,
  self-loathing, paranoia, and thoughts of suicide reminiscent of Sam
  Raimi's "A Simple Plan".

Brad Pitt's Jesse James is a mean-spirited, sardonic, dangerous, rattlesnake the likes of which haven't been seen since Kalifornia.


kcub

Also McKenna's Gold with Gregory Peck, probably some others he was in that haven't been mentioned

Will Ketchum

Quote from: kcub on March 06, 2010, 01:05:34 PM
Also McKenna's Gold with Gregory Peck, probably some others he was in that haven't been mentioned

Like "The Big Country"

That was pretty good with Burt Lancaster as his antagonist.

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Stillwater

Quote from: Will Ketchum on March 06, 2010, 01:42:12 PM
Like "The Big Country"

That was pretty good with Burt Lancaster as his antagonist.

Will Ketchum

Are you sure that wasn't Charlton Heston that was in the "Big Country," instead of Burt Lancaster?

Bill

WaddWatsonEllis

Okay, here is the billboard marquee ...

My moniker is my great grandfather's name. He served with the 2nd Florida Mounted Regiment in the Civil War. Afterward, he came home, packed his wife into a wagon, and was one of the first NorteAmericanos on the Frio River southwest of San Antonio ..... Kinda where present day Dilley is ...

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
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WaddWatsonEllis

Looks like the marquee looses definition when blown up ....

So here is the website ...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051411/
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"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne
NCOWS #3403

Texas Lawdog

Don't forget "Duel in the Sun" and "The Bravados".
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