Flask or Phials

Started by Angel_Eyes, September 24, 2008, 08:11:11 AM

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Angel_Eyes

Concerning the dispensing of Holy Black, which method do Darksiders use (or have to use).
It's getting very non-PC to use flasks over here, the excuse being safety.
Not that I'm against safety, but I like the traditional way of doing it, (loading, that is!!)
You can't beat getting it out, pointing it in the right direction, filling it up and then fumbling with your balls.(Cap that!) 
Trouble is...when I'm paid to do a job, I always carry it through. (Angel Eyes, The Good, The Bad & The Ugly)
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Noz


Qball

I have seen a flask blow up (as an experiment)
and i aint holding it in front of my nose (just to be safe)
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Fingers McGee

I always use a flask when charging C&B revolvers - always have - always will.  Chance of there being an ember that could cause ignition of powder being poured in after the pistol has been holstered for two or three minutes is infinitesimaly small.  With that being said - I always use a powder measure (hollowed out antler tip) to charge my muzzleloading rifles and single shot pistols cause the longer barrels increase the chance of an ember remaining that could cause the charge to ignite.
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Noz

Quote from: fingersmcgee on September 24, 2008, 11:34:44 AM
I always use a flask when charging C&B revolvers - always have - always will.  Chance of there being an ember that could cause ignition of powder being poured in after the pistol has been holstered for two or three minutes is infinitesimaly small.  With that being said - I always use a powder measure (hollowed out antler tip) to charge my muzzleloading rifles and single shot pistols cause the longer barrels increase the chnace of an ember remaining that could cause the charge to ignite.

+1

Pettifogger

Quote from: fingersmcgee on September 24, 2008, 11:34:44 AM
I always use a flask when charging C&B revolvers - always have - always will.  Chance of there being an ember that could cause ignition of powder being poured in after the pistol has been holstered for two or three minutes is infinitesimaly small.  With that being said - I always use a powder measure (hollowed out antler tip) to charge my muzzleloading rifles and single shot pistols cause the longer barrels increase the chnace of an ember remaining that could cause the charge to ignite.

+2   The odds of being killed driving your car to the range are far higher.  There is anecdotal evidence for almost everything conceivable.  I have read of an incident where a can of BP supposedly blew up while the cap was being unscrewed.  If it ever gets to the point where you can't use a flask to charge your C&B revolvers I'll go back to model railroading.  Of course, if you put your fingers on the two rails you might get shocked.  Maybe stamp collecting.  Might be licking a stamp hinge and accidentally swallow it and choke to death.  Phooey, maybe I should just stay in bed.  Could get hit by a meteorite.  Gosh, now I'm panicked.

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I use a flask for all my cap and ball loading, including the rifle. DM
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Quote from: fingersmcgee on September 24, 2008, 11:34:44 AM
I always use a flask when charging C&B revolvers - always have - always will.  Chance of there being an ember that could cause ignition of powder being poured in after the pistol has been holstered for two or three minutes is infinitesimaly small.  With that being said - I always use a powder measure (hollowed out antler tip) to charge my muzzleloading rifles and single shot pistols cause the longer barrels increase the chnace of an ember remaining that could cause the charge to ignite.

+3

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Paladin UK

Fer UK Shooter........

QuoteIt's getting very non-PC to use flasks over here, ???

It might jest be a `local thing` ::)

FWIW......

ALL of us here at Picketts Hill use flasks of all shapes `n` sizes since the Pistol Ban (10yrs ago)!!, I aint seen ONE pard usin a Phial!! 

And that includes pards that are BWSS competition shooters!!


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Pettifogger


Paladin UK

Ho Pettifogger
The BWSS (British Western Shooting Society)  is the Brit equivalent of the SASS, it was started by Bob Dunkley who was a Top Practical Pistol Shooter, Saw CAS in the states and fell in love with the idea and so he started the BWSS in the UK


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I Ride with the `Picketts Hill Marshals`..... A mean pistol packin bunch a No goods

The UK`s 1st Warthog!!... Soot Lord, and Profound believer in tha....`Holy Black` 
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  BWSS#033  SCORRS  SBSS#836L  STORM#303

Real Cowboys Shoot with BLACK POWDER!!

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WHY Sir Charles... :o

You`ve been peekin!!


Paladin (Whats  :o ) UK


 
I Ride with the `Picketts Hill Marshals`..... A mean pistol packin bunch a No goods

The UK`s 1st Warthog!!... Soot Lord, and Profound believer in tha....`Holy Black` 
MASTER... The Sublyme & Holy Order of the Soot (SHOTS)
  BWSS#033  SCORRS  SBSS#836L  STORM#303

Real Cowboys Shoot with BLACK POWDER!!

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hellgate

Fingers McGee summed it up: The deep barrels of long guns could harbor an ember but unless you are using paper cartridges the liklihood of an ember remaining in the short chambers of a revolver is about nil. I use a flask but not in the rifle or shotgun.
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Honest, PUK!  I didn't peek.  It was just a matter of near-simultaneous posting.

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Angel_Eyes

Hiya PUK, Ref the non-PC, try asking those bastions of peace and tranquility, the MLAGB or NRA if you can use flasks in any of their comps. Take a wild guess at the calm and dignified way they will tell you. The NRA RCO at a Phoenix comp DQ'd me because my old Marlin .44lever gun was not fitted with a safety!!!! Shock, horror, fancy wanting to move forward on a live firing range with a full mag tube and no safety......Sheiiiiii*
Trouble is...when I'm paid to do a job, I always carry it through. (Angel Eyes, The Good, The Bad & The Ugly)
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Buffalow Red

whats a safety
must be some thing that comes on the new guns
us poboys only afford old guns
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Mako

Quote from: fingersmcgee on September 24, 2008, 11:34:44 AM
I always use a flask when charging C&B revolvers - always have - always will.  Chance of there being an ember that could cause ignition of powder being poured in after the pistol has been holstered for two or three minutes is infinitesimaly small.  With that being said - I always use a powder measure (hollowed out antler tip) to charge my muzzleloading rifles and single shot pistols cause the longer barrels increase the chance of an ember remaining that could cause the charge to ignite.

+4

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Steel Horse Bailey

I guess I'm #5 (or more) in favor of flask loading.

The bigger the group - the more paranoid and petty they become regarding rules. 

There's NOTHING wrong with safety - but some groups lose their common sense about some details easily!


'Nuff said.
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Alabama

I am the minority here , I always load with a measure .
I have never loaded with a flask . But then again I aint in a hurry either .  ;D
I drink my coffee slow too  ;D

I understand the rules some clubs impose , and it is for safety reasons , even if its HIGHLY unlikely that your flask is going to ever blow up because of embers in a pistol cylinder . That being said , it could happen , that is why they don't want you to do it .
If your alone with yourself , then by all means blow your head off , please . If your sitting with me , be safe, I expect you to !
I eliminate " ALL " possibilities of my flask blowing up by not loading with the flask . Enough said ?
Is it faster loading with a flask ? Yes . Is it safer ? NO  ;D
If its your Range your shooting on , make your own rules . If its not, then oh well , deal with it or go home .
I figure if your in that big a hurry then shoot Cartridge guns , solves the problem of your moral dilema of following the rules at someone elses range or club or community that wants to rule out any mishaps .
If your ducking bullets wizzing around your head , then you might not be at a CASS shoot anyway , your at War !!! By all means load with your flask then  ;D
If your sitting with me ( or standing ) you better be loading with your measure if you just shot your pistol , or I will be moving away from you . Most would agree that that would be a good thing to have happen anyway  ;D

My two cents , worth one .

Alabama

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