I`m short a click!!

[Paladin UK]

Ho pards,    I`m short a click!!

Ya got yerselfs a puzzled PUK here,

My Pietta 1851 Sheriff (36 cal) only does 3 clicks!!

I have tried another 2 bolts and exactly the same happens!!

First click, Trigger sets into half cock and bolt drops

Second click, triggers sets into full cock

Third click bolt resets.

The gun seems to function Jest fine!! there are NO score marks on the cylinder that should be there iffn the bolt was coming up too early!!

Any help here would be `preciated

Paladin (Who's a click short  ) UK

[Sagebrush Burns]

There is no so-called "safety notch" on c&b revolvers as there is on SAAs, thus only three clicks, not four.

[Joe Lafives]

Thats Sage Advice!

[Paladin UK]

Fer Sage.
First up I really `preciate yer help pard

But I have ta disagree with ya pard but my 1861 Navy (Colt/Uberti sig series) has 4!!

And this is why I wus askin

First click, Trigger sets on half cock and bolt drops.

Second click bolt resets

Third click Trigger sets on full cock

Forth click bolt engages in cylinder.

Iffn its the timing relationship between the Bolt/Trigger thats different in the Pietta and Colberti  then I`m fine with this as the gun seems to function Jest fine, but iffnit aint, then Obviously I`d like to rectify it!!

Paladin (What `preciates yer help ) UK

[John Taylor]

Just from the sound of it, you might have the end of your trigger broke off. The full cock and bolt drop into notch should happen about the same time.  If you are reaching full cock before the bolt drops into the notch it usually means the trigger is to short or the bolt was not fitted properly.

[Fox Creek Kid]

First click, Trigger sets on half cock and bolt drops.

Second click bolt resets

Third click Trigger sets on full cock

Forth click bolt engages in cylinder.

Your gun needs a gunsmith, quick. 

[Smokin Gun]

Nothin'  wrong with your Rev Pard...the differance in how many clicks is equal to the through your hand has to the travel of the hammer to the frame. Simply a hand may engage the cylinder well before the bolt comes to the bolthead slot, (timming) a better timed rev you may not hear or notice a 4th click cause the bolt was on the edge of thee slots. Look at your cyl. slots and see where the bolt is hitting...before you do that back off your bolt/trigger spring up to about 1/8 of a turn, so you won't be mashin' up you cyl. slots...a softer hit as long as it's fully engaged in the slot.
I have a Pietta.36 Reb that lands the bolthead smack in the bolt slot on the second click...(click  Click) as the hand wears it will shorten so replacement or weld up the old hand.


Anyway , hope that helps some,

SG

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

It's the lack of a 'safety cock' notch on your hammer.

The sequence of events on the typical SAA or clone is

First Click: trigger sear pops into the 'safety' cock notch on the hammer.

Second Click: hammer goes to half cock.

Third Click: bolt pops up against the cylinder.

Fourth Click: hammer goes to full cock simultaneously as the bolt pops home into the locking notch on the cylinder. * More about that later.

Colt Cap & Ball revolvers have no 'safety' cock notch on the hammer.

The order of clicks on my old brass framed Navy is

First Click: hammer goes to half cock.

Second Click: bolt pops up against the cylinder.

Third Click: Hammer goes to full cock as the bolt simultaneously pops into the locking notch on the cylinder*

*OK, here is the caveat. Only when a single action revolver is absolutely perfectly timed does the hammer go to full cock at the exact same moment as the bolt pops into the locking notch locking the cylinder. On many guns the hammer actually goes to full cock slightly before the the bolt pops into the notch. In this case, there will be a little bit more travel to the hammer after full cock before the cylinder goes around a tiny bit more to allow the bolt to pop all the way up. Hence, cock it slowly enough and a SAA type lockwork may actually have 5 clicks, and a C&B lockwork may actually have 4 clicks. This is very common, and there is nothing wrong with it. It is of course perfect if the hamme goes to full cock and the cylinder locks up simultaneously, but if the timing is just slightly wrong the cylinder will lock up, jamming the hand and preventing the hammer from going all the way to full cock. So a little teeny bit of overtravel on the hammer is very common, and is not a problem. When actually firing the gun we yank the hammer back hard enough to go to full cock and lock up the cylinder.

What sounds unusual about your guns is they go to half cock and the cylinder pops up at the same time. On most guns the bolt does not pop up until considerably after half cock, so that the cylinder can remain unlocked while it rotates for loading and unloading with the hammer locked back in the half cock position.

Your '4 click' guns sounds like what I outlined. The hammer goes to full cock slightly before the bolt pops into the locking notch, locking the cylinder in place. Not perfect, but very common and not a problem.

[Deadeye Dick]

I have a 2nd generation Colt 1851 Navy that behaves exactly the way DJ states. It has four clicks. The bolt pops into the cylinder locking notch just after the hammer goes to full cock. I've always thought there might be a problem since I have to continue pulling the hammer back to get the bolt to pop into the cylinder locking notch. I feel better now. Thanks DJ for the information.
Thanks PUK for raising the concern. I learned a lot. 
Deadeye Dick

[Paladin UK]

Yep!!
Im a happy bunny too!!
It seems that the 3-4 click syndrome is purly down ta timing, like I mentioned my Colt Sig has  (and will keep  ) its 4 clicks!! As I functions `slick as snot`!! (Brit fer Bootiful!!)  

Paladin (What thanks ya`ll  ) UK

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Yep!!
Im a happy bunny too!!
It seems that the 3-4 click syndrome is purly down ta timing, like I mentioned my Colt Sig has  (and will keep  ) its 4 clicks!! As I functions `slick as snot`!! (Brit fer Bootiful!!)  

Paladin (What thanks ya`ll  ) UK

PUK:  would that be owl snot?  That stuff is world renown for its' slickery feel.

[Texas Lawdog]

SHB, That Owl POOP tends to be a tad slippery also.

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Indeed!

[Paladin UK]

Thars a lotta learnin goin on here pards!! 

Paladin (What aint tried Owl poo........... yet!! ) UK